A Can of Man
Je suis aware
You do realise that Obama isnt a Commie? Far from it. Its like saying a Su-27 is the same as a Harrier :|
You're comparing apples and cell phones.
I think that most people would agree that Obama is not a Communist.
You do realise that Obama isnt a Commie? Far from it. Its like saying a Su-27 is the same as a Harrier :|
You mean the Counties where there were voting irregularities & where the Supervisors of Elections were all Democrats? Is Obama a Communist? Maybe, maybe not. His patheticly thin voting record was far Left & anti-Capitalist. Ignored Rule of Law by disenfrancising secured debt holders to give Chrysler to unsecured debt holders, the UAW. Booting owners & giving the company to the workers sounds Communist to me. Then the violations of Contract Law where financial Industry workers had performance bonuses in thier Contracts & he said they couldn't have them, in violation of the contracts, or the US Govt. would target them individually & tax it away from them. Sounds like gangsterism there. How many times have Republicans been shouted down on college campuses?Chief Bones
I absolutely agree, these "people", (the same "people" that disrupted the 2000 florida recount) need to be arrested and thrown in Jail. They are not grassroots, they are political hacks and while the pretend to protect democracy they are only really concerned about their own rights, not the rights of other people who disagree.
And once they are in jail it would be a very easy thing to research who set them up and bring up charges against the ringleaders too. I think theres an arguement for at least conspiracy, perhaps even racketeering not to mention disturbing the peace.
Personally I think the "They(Chr & GM) are going to close up & disappear" was a lie to help panic the situation. There are various bankruptcys. Some result in everyone losing everything. This wasn't one of them. Secured debt holders legally have 1st cut @ the assets. The unsecured debt holders only get a cut if there is anything left after the secured debt is taken care of. The secured debt holders were Demonized by Obama, the Press & other Democrats as evil profiteers & were badgered into accepting .28 cents on the Dollar & the UAW(unsecured debtors) recieved 55% of the assets (shares) & that isn't "government control". This was at best a perversion of Law. The UAW might not technically be the Workers, but the Workers are the membership of the UAW, so taking a company & giving it to the Workers is, effectivly, what happened. How does the UAW negotiate a new labor contract with it's own members?Considering Chrysler was supposed to go out of business and all the investors were supposed to lose all the money they invested in Chrysler, I don't see what the complaining is about.
"Booting the owners" came not out of the blue, but after they had proven yet again that they are incapable of running the company and putting it under government control isn't exactly "giving it to the workers" either.
Odds are, the government is going to look for a private sector buyer in the coming years once the company has been stabilized.
Under a new ownership, contracts do change and often it's a clause of M&As.
People are getting pissed.... we're getting to a tipping point and it's not going to be pretty.
As for you guys here that side with them.... I don't care what you say. I stand on the side of Freedom.
Yes, of course. Because a Democrat won the election, we're going to become a socialist country... :roll: Give me a break. Have you ever actually BEEN to a socialist country? Do you realize what QUALIFIES as socialism?Its going to get MUCH MUCH worse. We're on our way to socialism. You didn't hear?
It would be nice if politicians had to step down n lose their pensions immediately ..if a system of *Vote of Incompetence* was filed by the people, :drunkb: for actions not considered for *good of the people*. :smile:
Its going to get MUCH MUCH worse. We're on our way to socialism. You didn't hear?
What I am pissed about, are those who think the democratic process means screaming so loud that those who are trying to answer questions from concerned citizens, can't hear the questions.
Democracy is the FREE EXCHANGE of ideas ... NOT PARTISAN POLITICS as usual.
While I defend concerned citizen's right to express their concerns ... they should be arrested for disturbing the peace if all they do is to completely disrupt the democratic process with violence and brazen noise...
POLITICAL GANGSTERS ARE AS BIG A CRIMINAL element, as those who commit crimes using a firearm .. and .. should be handled the same way.
Health care is an issue who's time has come {too many American's are NOT rich and can NOT afford to make use of the greatest health care system in the world}. It deserves better than gangsterism instead of democratic discourse.
It wouldn't be a problem if a Democrat like Sam Nunn had been elected & proposed reform based on Market solutions. Instead we have far Left anti Capitalists whose main supporters are upset that the Country isn't being wrecked faster than it is. One letter to the Editor of my local paper stated "The status quo must be destroyed".The worse thing already did happen, a Democrat won.
That´s called progress, the status quo is replaced by something new.-snip- "The status quo must be destroyed".
It wouldn't be a problem if a Democrat like Sam Nunn had been elected & proposed reform based on Market solutions. Instead we have far Left anti Capitalists whose main supporters are upset that the Country isn't being wrecked faster than it is.
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