Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq

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Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq

BEIRUT — A rejuvenated al-Qaeda-affiliated force asserted control over the western Iraqi city of Fallujah on Friday, raising its flag over government buildings and declaring an Islamic state in one of the most crucial areas that U.S. troops fought to pacify before withdrawing from Iraq two years ago.

The capture of Fallujah came amid an explosion of violence across the western desert province of Anbar in which local tribes, Iraqi security forces and al-Qaeda-affiliated militants have been fighting one another for days in a confusingly chaotic three-way war.

Elsewhere in the province, local tribal militias claimed they were gaining ground against the al-Qaeda militants who surged into urban areas from their desert strongholds this week after clashes erupted between local residents and the Iraqi security forces.

In Fallujah, where Marines fought the bloodiest battle of the Iraq war in 2004, the militants appeared to have the upper hand, underscoring the extent to which the Iraqi security forces have struggled to sustain the gains made by U.S. troops before they withdrew in December 2011.
The upheaval also affirmed the soaring capabilities of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the rebranded version of the al-Qaeda in Iraq organization that was formed a decade ago to confront U.S. troops and expanded into Syria last year while escalating its activities in Iraq. Roughly a third of the 4,486 U.S. troops killed in Iraq died in Anbar trying to defeat al-Qaeda in Iraq, nearly 100 of them in the November 2004 battle for control of Fallujah, the site of America’s bloodiest confrontation since the Vietnam War.

Events Friday suggested the fight may have been in vain.
“At the moment, there is no presence of the Iraqi state in Fallujah,” said a local journalist who asked not to be named because he fears for his safety. “The police and the army have abandoned the city, al-Qaeda has taken down all the Iraqi flags and burned them, and it has raised its own flag on all the buildings.”

At Friday prayers , held outdoors and attended by thousands of people, a masked ISIS fighter took the podium and addressed the crowd, declaring the establishment of an “Islamic emirate” in Fallujah and promising to help residents fight the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his Iranian allies.

“We don’t want to hurt you. We don’t want to take any of your possessions,” the man told the crowd, according to the journalist, who attended the prayers. “We want you to reopen the schools and institutions and return to your normal lives.”

The extent of the militants’ control over the city was unclear, however. Some local tribes were challenging their presence, and there were scattered firefights, according to another Fallujah resident who also did not want to be named because he is afraid. The Iraqi army fired shells into Fallujah from bases outside the city, killing at least 17 people, and most residents spent the day hiding indoors, he said.

In the provincial capital, Ramadi, tribal fighters have succeeded in ejecting al-Qaeda loyalists, according to Ahmed Abu Risha, a tribal leader who fought alongside U.S. troops against al-Qaeda in Iraq following the “surge” of U.S. troops in 2007.

The tribesmen are cooperating with Iraqi police, Abu Risha said, and are receiving weapons and support from the Iraqi army. Among those killed in the fighting was Abu Abdul Rahman al-Baghdadi, the emir, or leader, of ISIS in Ramadi.

“All the tribes of Anbar are fighting against al-Qaeda,” he said. “We are happy this fight is taking place. We will confront them face to face, and we will win this battle.”

But it was unclear whether all the tribal fighters battling the al-Qaeda-affiliated militants were doing so in alliance with the Iraqi government. The current violence evolved from a year-long, largely peaceful Sunni revolt against Maliki’s Shiite-dominated government that drew inspiration from the Arab Spring demonstrations elsewhere in the region. But it was rooted in the sectarian disputes left unresolved when U.S. troops withdrew and inflamed by the escalating conflict in neighboring Syria.

Those disputes include the exclusion of Sunnis from important decision-making positions in government and abuses committed against Sunnis in Iraq’s notoriously inequitable judicial system.

When Maliki dispatched the Iraqi army to quell a protest in Ramadi this week, local tribes fought back. Maliki ordered the troops to withdraw, creating an opportunity for al-Qaeda fighters to surge into towns from their desert strongholds and triggering battles across the province.
Though some tribes have turned against the al-Qaeda-affiliated militants, others have not, said Kirk Sowell, a political risk analyst based in the Jordanian capital, Amman, who edits the newsletter Inside Iraqi Politics.
“Basically, no one is in control,” he said. “The situation was really horrible anyway, and the operation against Ramadi made it worse.”

A group representing the tribal fighters, calling itself the Military Council of the Anbar Rebels, posted a video on YouTube in which masked men declared their opposition to Maliki’s government but made no mention of al-Qaeda. The fighters called on local members of the Iraqi security forces to desert, hand over their weapons “and remember always that they are the sons of Iraq, not slaves of Maliki.”

Whether or how the Iraqi security forces will be able to regain the initiative is unclear. ISIS fighters have steadily asserted their control over the province’s desert regions for months, buoyed by their consolidation of control over territory just across the border in Syria. They are more disciplined and better armed than the tribal fighters drawn into the fray over the past week, and the Iraqi security forces lack the equipment and technology that enabled U.S. troops to suppress the al-Qaeda challenge.
In the past year, al-Qaeda has bounced back, launching a vicious campaign of bombings that killed more than 8,000 people in 2013, according to the United Nations. Sectarian tensions between Iraq’s Sunnis and the Shiite-led government have been further inflamed by the war in Syria, where the majority Sunni population has been engaged in a nearly three-year-old struggle to dislodge President Bashar al-Assad, a member of the Shiite Alawite minority.

Al-Qaeda’s ascendant influence in Syria has given the militants control over the desert territories spanning both sides of the *Iraqi-Syrian border, enabling them to readily transfer weapons and fighters between the arenas.

In Syria on Friday, there were demonstrations in several rebel-held towns against ISIS’s presence, and in at least one town ISIS fighters opened fire on protesters, echoing the suppression of anti-government demonstrations by Syria’s government in the early days of the revolt. Clashes also erupted between the al-Qaeda-affiliated fighters and Islamist fighters from the newly formed Islamist Front in the rebel-held north, in a sign of growing tensions between Syrians and foreign-influenced extremists.

Most residents of Fallujah do not support the al-Qaeda fighters, the journalist there said, but they also lack the means to oppose them, and they also oppose the Iraqi government.

“It is sad, because we are going back to the days of the past,” he said. “Everyone is remembering the battles of 2004 when the Marines came in, and now we are revisiting history.”

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So,where are US soldiers?! Wasn't Al-Qaeda their first and most dangerous enemy??
Now Iran is in first line against Al-Qaeda. In Syria, in Iraq and in Lebanon. And where is US side?

Obama told the whole world he had defeated them. It was a lie for politcal reasons. Romney was right all the time.

Bush jumped into a well without knowing how deep it was. Obama doesn't even know what a well is.

Obama is the one who is losing the war on terror because he doesn't know (or refuses to know) what Al Qaeda stands for. Watch Afganistan when the Americans leave, it will become Taliban country again. All the American sacrifices for what?
 
Obama told the whole world he had defeated them. It was a lie for politcal reasons. Romney was right all the time.

Bush jumped into a well without knowing how deep it was. Obama doesn't even know what a well is.

Obama is the one who is losing the war on terror because he doesn't know (or refuses to know) what Al Qaeda stands for. Watch Afganistan when the Americans leave, it will become Taliban country again. All the American sacrifices for what?
It's nothing to do with Obama, all he can do is get out of the mess he was left by the Neocons the best way possible.

Anyone who knows the slightest thing about the Middle East, and Afghanistan in particular knew that it would revert to the way it was (or worse) as soon as the Coalition forces slunk out the door with their tail tucked firmly between their legs. It was never a winnable fight in the first place.

If it were not for the US support of Israel, Al Qaeda would never have had a reason to come into being. Get rid of Israel and 99% of Islamic terror in the West will just go away, and the Islamic warlords and power brokers that have gained power as a result of this fcuk up, will only have each other to fight with over the spoils.
 
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So,where are US soldiers?! Wasn't Al-Qaeda their first and most dangerous enemy??
Now Iran is in first line against Al-Qaeda. In Syria, in Iraq and in Lebanon. And where is US side?

The US is at the front in Afghanistan and Africa. Our troops also built the Iraqi military from the ground up. And how is Iran fighting AQ?
 
If it were not for the US support of Israel, Al Qaeda would never have had a reason to come into being. Get rid of Israel and 99% of Islamic terror in the West will just go away, and the Islamic warlords and power brokers that have gained power as a result of this fcuk up, will only have each other to fight with over the spoils.

AQ came into being because of US bases in Saudi Arabia. The Israel thing was brought up to draw in more recruits.
 
AQ came into being because of US bases in Saudi Arabia. The Israel thing was brought up to draw in more recruits.
That answer may be great if you have only a passing interest, but if you take the time to look just a little deeper, you will find that had it not been for the US support of Israel's policies in the middle east, the US military would never would have had the need to be in Saudi Arabia in the first place.

It's no use hand picking odd details, you have to trace the problem to it's root.
 
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That answer may be great if you have only a passing interest, but if you take the time to look just a little deeper, you will find that had it not been for the US support of Israel's policies in the middle east, the US military would never would have had the need to be in Saudi Arabia in the first place.

It's no use hand picking odd details, you have to trace the problem to it's root.

It goes back way before that. The crusades, the Islamic conquests, etc....
 
It goes back way before that. The crusades, the Islamic conquests, etc....
Life goes back tens of thousands of years if you want to take that approach,.... but it has nothing directly to do with the rise of Al Qaeda or the sudden rise in Global Islamic fundamentalism, as does the US support of Israel's war crimes in Palestine.

If you don't believe this, tell me one country not aligned with the US that has suffered any significant Al Qaeda based terror threat.
 
It's nothing to do with Obama, all he can do is get out of the mess he was left by the Neocons the best way possible.

Anyone who knows the slightest thing about the Middle East, and Afghanistan in particular knew that it would revert to the way it was (or worse) as soon as the Coalition forces slunk out the door with their tail tucked firmly between their legs. It was never a winnable fight in the first place.

If it were not for the US support of Israel, Al Qaeda would never have had a reason to come into being. Get rid of Israel and 99% of Islamic terror in the West will just go away, and the Islamic warlords and power brokers that have gained power as a result of this fcuk up, will only have each other to fight with over the spoils.

Again you show your lack of knowledge about Al Qaeda. Adel Abdul Jalil Batterjee wrote the book : al-Ansar al-Arab fi Afghanistan. Here you will find the reason and how Al Qaeda was founded. What Bin laden (cover name Abu Abdallah), Julaidan (cover name Abul-Hasan) and Azzam did. In short, they went to Afganistan to fight the Russians and after their defeat they began preparations for a worldwide caliphat. If they could beat the Russians they surely could beat the decadent west. If it was about the "Palestinian" conflict Al Qaeda wouldn't be fighting in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Africa, Somalia and other countries but in Israel.

Life goes back tens of thousands of years if you want to take that approach,.... but it has nothing directly to do with the rise of Al Qaeda or the sudden rise in Global Islamic fundamentalism, as does the US support of Israel's war crimes in Palestine.

If you don't believe this, tell me one country not aligned with the US that has suffered any significant Al Qaeda based terror threat.

Syria, Russia
 
Again you show your lack of knowledge about Al Qaeda. Adel Abdul Jalil Batterjee wrote the book : al-Ansar al-Arab fi Afghanistan. Here you will find the reason and how Al Qaeda was founded. What Bin laden (cover name Abu Abdallah), Julaidan (cover name Abul-Hasan) and Azzam did. In short, they went to Afganistan to fight the Russians and after their defeat they began preparations for a worldwide caliphat. If they could beat the Russians they surely could beat the decadent west. If it was about the "Palestinian" conflict Al Qaeda wouldn't be fighting in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Africa, Somalia and other countries but in Israel.
Iraq, Afghanistan Pakistan are involved due to their being listed as training and/or supporting countries for Al Qaeda after 9/11, since that time Al Quaeda have attempted to expand their influence in the hope of unifying all Muslim countries against the US and her supporters, unfortunately their interference was not well received.
The early Arab uprisings offered a glimpse of precisely how al Qaeda could ultimately be defeated. The successful popular uprisings against authoritarian secular regimes left little space for a would-be revolutionary vanguard. That Islamists of various stripes participated in those uprisings should be seen as a slap in the face to al Qaeda's claims to leadership. While bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and many Salafi-jihadist writers tried to put a brave face on it, the reality was that al Qaeda struggled enormously to justify its stances in the early days of the Arab uprisings. - See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/08/the_gift_al_qaeda_arab_spring#sthash.97i2tSks.dpuf

Syria, Russia
Neither were instigated by Al Qaeda and neither constitute a significant Terror attack. Both are civil wars instigated locally against oppression in one case against the ruling Baath party and in the other against Russian Rule in Chechnya.
The Syrian Civil War, also known as the Syrian Uprising[79] or the Syrian Crisis (Arabic: الأزمة السورية‎),[80] is an ongoing armed conflict in Syria between forces loyal to the Ba'ath government and those seeking to oust it. The unrest began on 15 March 2011, with popular protests that grew nationwide by April 2011. These protests were part of the wider Middle Eastern protest movement known as the Arab Spring. Protesters demanded the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad, whose family has held the presidency in Syria since 1971, as well as the end of Ba'ath Party rule, which began in 1963.
 
Life goes back tens of thousands of years if you want to take that approach,.... but it has nothing directly to do with the rise of Al Qaeda or the sudden rise in Global Islamic fundamentalism, as does the US support of Israel's war crimes in Palestine.

my point is that this is the most recent war in a series of wars spanning back over centuries and centuries. AQ was born in Afghanistan in the fires of the war with the USSR. And it went after us for our violation of Islam's most sarced land - Arabia.

If you don't believe this, tell me one country not aligned with the US that has suffered any significant Al Qaeda based terror threat.

Syria, Russia (not to mention the old USSR), Libya and oh yes Iran.
 
my point is that this is the most recent war in a series of wars spanning back over centuries and centuries. AQ was born in Afghanistan in the fires of the war with the USSR. And it went after us for our violation of Islam's most sarced land - Arabia.
somewhere along the line you have diverged from my original statement about Global Islamic Terror and it's cause, to concentrating on Al Qaeda. They are only new comers and did not even get involved until after the end of the Russian/Afghan conflict by which time Islamic fundamentalism had been uniting the Muslim world for close to 20 years.
Incidentally it was not US bases in Saudi Arabia that bought Al Qaeda about either, AQ had been operating for several years when the Saudis knocked back Bin Laden's offer of help.

Syria, Russia (not to mention the old USSR), Libya and oh yes Iran.
Internal squabbles at worst, civil wars at best, little to do with Global Islamic terror with maybe the exception of Russia and they are guilty of the same sins as the US interfering in things that are none of their business.
 
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Obama told the whole world he had defeated them. It was a lie for politcal reasons. Romney was right all the time.

Bush jumped into a well without knowing how deep it was. Obama doesn't even know what a well is.

Obama is the one who is losing the war on terror because he doesn't know (or refuses to know) what Al Qaeda stands for. Watch Afganistan when the Americans leave, it will become Taliban country again. All the American sacrifices for what?
Unlike you I think Obama is a wise person. He did what he should. After 12 years the US people should be understood war doen't have any benefit for them in the ME. What are the advantages of war against Afghanistan and Iraq for them? Nothing. If they didn't start these two war, they could control Iran much better with Saddam in the west and Taliban in the east of Iran borders.


The US is at the front in Afghanistan and Africa. Our troops also built the Iraqi military from the ground up. And how is Iran fighting AQ?
Be sure it is Quds Army from Iran who is managing the war against AQ in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. If AQ in Syria and Iraq hadn't been supported by Gulf states and west including the US ( directly and indirectly), they would have defeated in the first months. After 3 years you should be understood that the free army is/was a joke. On the other hand all of you are fighting against Taliban who is almost alone ( except that 500,000 $ earning from drug trade ) but you haven't been successful in your war yet.
 
Iraq, Afghanistan Pakistan are involved due to their being listed as training and/or supporting countries for Al Qaeda after 9/11, since that time Al Quaeda have attempted to expand their influence in the hope of unifying all Muslim countries against the US and her supporters, unfortunately their interference was not well received.

I can live with that reply.

Neither were instigated by Al Qaeda and neither constitute a significant Terror attack. Both are civil wars instigated locally against oppression in one case against the ruling Baath party and in the other against Russian Rule in Chechnya.

You were not talking about instigating an attack but about a terror threat.

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Life goes back tens of thousands of years if you want to take that approach,.... but it has nothing directly to do with the rise of Al Qaeda or the sudden rise in Global Islamic fundamentalism, as does the US support of Israel's war crimes in Palestine.

If you don't believe this, tell me one country not aligned with the US that has suffered any significant Al Qaeda based terror threat.
There definitely is a Al Qaeda related terror thread in both Syria and Russia.
Russia bombings raise questions about Sochi Olympics security
"Rarely do you actually have a terrorist group come out and say, 'We're going to try and disrupt these games,'" CNN national security analyst Fran Townsend said Monday. "When al Qaeda-related affinity groups make these sort of statements, you've got to take them at their word."

somewhere along the line you have diverged from my original statement about Global Islamic Terror and it's cause, to concentrating on Al Qaeda. They are only new comers and did not even get involved until after the end of the Russian/Afghan conflict by which time Islamic fundamentalism had been uniting the Muslim world for close to 20 years.
Incidentally it was not US bases in Saudi Arabia that bought Al Qaeda about either, AQ had been operating for several years when the Saudis knocked back Bin Laden's offer of help.

Bin Laden was involved in the war against Russia from 1978 on when he went to Pakistan to help the Mujahideen logistically and financially. From 1984 he actually joined them in the fighting. Organized traing camps which led to the name Al Qaeda.
Islamic fundamentalism started in the 7th century with Mohammed. He wanted then what Al Qaeda wants now.

Unlike you I think Obama is a wise person. He did what he should. After 12 years the US people should be understood war doen't have any benefit for them in the ME. What are the advantages of war against Afghanistan and Iraq for them? Nothing. If they didn't start these two war, they could control Iran much better with Saddam in the west and Taliban in the east of Iran borders.

You can't fight ideology with a military war. You fight it in the classroom. Education. Obama is very smart...as a lawyer. He did not have any experience in governing when he came to power. Like someone once said, he is not even able to organize a two car motorcade.
 
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