Gator
U of B and B Alumnus
Well, I for one wouldn't be able to fathom the response from some of the people on this Board had this same event taken place under a different Administration.
Air Force B-52 carries armed Nucs by mistake ...
Well, I for one wouldn't be able to fathom the response from some of the people on this Board had this same event taken place under a different Administration.
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
I would have to agree. Very unfortunate but true.
MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
At a guess I would go with the old maxim "familiarity breeds contempt" it happens in all aspects of life regardless of what field you are in.
I am stuck between both camps on this one as I accept it was "just" a mistake but it was a mistake that could have had some major ramifications and therefore needs to be taken seriously.
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
I don't think anyone here seriously argues (other than oRTouCH) that this was a mistake. However there seems to be (for some reason) a split on how seriously something like this should be taken.
Chief Bones
Forums Grumpy Old Man
Have to agree with you where others are concerned ... however ... having been a member of a Nuclear Weapons Loading Team, I would have the very same concerned attitude I have articulated on my other posts.
You DON'T mess around with Nuc Weapons ... and ... you for sure don't break the security procedures (or) instructions that have been put in place to stop FUBAR operations like the one that recently took place.
P80's views don't make sense to me ... he seems to want to trivialize a FUBAR that is about as serious a blunder as I have ever seen ... I don't understand people like him. He seems to want to go through life with his head stuck in the sand.
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phoenix80
Banned
Some loonie bloggers from the left side have argued that this could be a simulated bombing run against Iran.... I'll find the link to it
phoenix80
Banned
I am at liberty to believe whatever I want. Your views are extremely biased and make me feel you're doing this on purpose to bash the US armed forces during the time of war.
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Yeah well I don't believe that and I'm sure a lot of people here don't believe that either.
You can criticize Chief Bones' ideas etc. but only if you are right about it. CB may have been biased in other posts but in this case, all that has been shown so far is pretty solid evidence that there was a huge screwup with the Air Force. The rest of the accusations and links to the administration have been made only by you.
I see no attack on the administration, nor do I even see any mention of the administration other than your posts and one reply to your accusations.
phoenix80
Banned
None of these people here claiming to be nuke experts CAN do any thing about what has happened in the past. Time to move on and stop the anti-military rantings!
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Infern0
Banned
well then YOU move on, and the rest of use who would like to continue discussing this and have something useful to contribute, can.
Gator
U of B and B Alumnus
I had a CNWDI Clearance while in EOD, EOD is by definition the roughest with the Special Weapons out of any MOS in the Military, and we still treated a Special like it was a new born baby..... well a new born that was in need of emergency disassembly or distruct, render safe, and disposal.
As you know, there are never any simple mistakes when dealing with Special Weapons, hell just being rough with a Special could casuse EOD to have to go to work.
For those who may view this as just a simple mistake I say that it would not be possible, as there are many layers involved, a mistake would have needed to take place at each step along the way, compounding, growing larger, the end result being the fact of having 6 Special Weapons misplaced, come up missing for a few hours, and mistakenly turn up at a different Base many miles away.
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03USMC
Active member
YOU WILL STAND DOWN AS OF NOW!!!!
The bashing or accusing a CPO of bashing the United States Armed Forces in a time of war will not be tolorated.
Nothing in this discussion has amounted to bashing,smearing or otherwise desparging to the US Armed Forces except in your view.
Your accustions are thru move on.
bulldogg
Milforum's Bouncer
Gotta agree with the Chief on this one.
The officers and NCOs who are proved responsible should be punished IAC relevant UCMJ articles. Nothing more, nothing less.
Until the poop snoopers finish reading trail signs and possibly make their findings public I'll hold off on the lynchings.
oRTouCH
Active member
I didn't mean it. We can not be sure what the heck they were doin , but that was not what I mean.