You are in the minority ...
MontyB said:
Problem is that CNN are not that impartial themselves as they clearly have an Obama bent, they just try harder than Fox to be less biased.
Having watched this debate I thought McCain clearly won the first 30 minutes with Obama stuttering and stammering his way through several questions before he found his feet but he seemed to go into Grandpa Simpson mode for the rest of the debate.
On the whole I think McCain held his own in every field except Education where he just looked well out of his depth. I also suspect using Joe the Plumber is going to end up biting him on the arse as it is very dangerous to give people specific points they can check.
Unlike CNN though I think McCain came out on top in that debate, not by a lot though.
Monty .....
I've been cruising all of the other networks (including the big 3 AND the 24/7 ones) ... the political pundits and the viewers don't agree with you about the debate. They placed Obama ahead by almost a 3 to 1 margin. Independent viewers placed Obama ahead by an even bigger margin.
Whether part of the reason was McCain needed a home-run and didn't get it or the fact that Obama was clearly more Presidential right from the get go than was McCain, the consensus was that McCain struck out on most issues. Evidently you looked at the debate much differently than I or others did. McCain clenched his teeth, grimaced and reacted badly throughout the debate when Obama was answering accusations or negative comments that McCain inserted into this debate. McCain even reacted badly when Obama discussed his proposals. Obama was calm, cool, collected, centered and smiled throughout the debate. As far as issues, Obama was more clearly lucid about the programs he put forward. He was able to state them in such a way, that they were addressed directly to the voters. McCain on the other hand, mumbled and stuttered a number of times, and had to rephrase what he was going to say on a number of occasions.
BTW - Joe the Plumber did
NOT resonate well with most voters (my self included). We wanted to know how the candidates were going to help
US personally and could have cared less how McCain was going to help one single person. Once with the Joe the Plumber story would have been okay ... but ... placing "Joe the Plumber" as the central target for McCain's policies and programs, was a put-off. Let's face it, how many of us are Joe the Plumbers????? I am a six pack kinda guy ... the cheapest brand the store carries.
The 'biggest' strike that McCain was able to throw, was his comment to Obama
'If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run against him last term', when Obama mentioned McCain's proposals were just more of the same Bush policies of the last eight years.
Although the pundits and viewers called the win for Obama, they also said it wasn't a complete knock out punch. McCain had moments (even though they were few and far between).
Bottom line: You are in the minority with believing McCain won this last debate.
20 days and counting .........