Who are aggressive - S. Korean ro N. Korean?

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the_13th_redneck, this photo taken by you S. Korean. Could you tell me the truth?

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Obviously someone was approaching from the North Korean side with intent to communicate. The fact that this photo is marked out like that makes me concerned about your thought process or the lack thereof. Do you really believe that THIS is how they stand guard at Panmunjom?
 
No because you're not worth the time or effort.
Pictures and photos of how they normally stand guard are easy to find and have appeared in publications of several countries many times over. This is the first photo I've seen of what's above, but can't you figure it out for yourself? Something has caught the attention of all three people.
Maybe you have no idea because you have never stood guard before.
 
Let's look at the lower right of the photo - "STRONG WARRIOR, SRTONG FORCE - REPUBLIC OF KOREA ARMY"
 
So what? That doesn't prove anything except that Koreans are bad at English.
Again, you have never stood guard before, have you?
 
I seem to remember North Korean troops killing an unarmed South Korean with an axe whilst he was doing legitimate work in the DMZ a few years ago.

I think that act says a lot more about aggressive attitudes than the fact that one man is closer to the border marker than the other in your photo. You will notice that he is still within South Korean space, so what exactly is your point?

Also the fact that the man on the left is moving is of no importance whatsoever as he may be turning in response to something happening out of camera shot to his left. He is moving, not "posing"

I have supported some of your posts in the past when I think you have been treated unfairly, however I feel that you are just being "aggressive" yourself in this case. There is nothing that states one group or the other is being aggressive, both sides have the right to go anywhere they like on their own soil.
 
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You know, just me but. You might have asked the question in a less aggressive manner than you did. You might have asked what was going on. It would have been explained to you.

IIRC- When a member of the UNC or JSF wishes to speak with a member from the NK side the ROK sentry and the ROK officer of the guard advance to the furtherst limit of the ROK. The UNC or JSF officer is hailing NK over a megaphone out of frame.

The NK Sentry is required by the NKPA to be out of arms reach of his running dog capitalist counter part lest the ROK grab him and kidnapp him to the South and away from the loving embrace of the Dear Leader. He is also required to be looking at another NK sentry out of frame. The guy out of frame is watching him so he doesn't hop the Z of his own accord and thereby embarrass the Dear Leader

Course I could be off base, but I believe 13th'S response to be truthful. You think these guys look aggressive you ought to see the Sentry's inside the building.
 
No you're probably right.
They have pretty weird ways of doing things over there.
But to answer his question, this is not how they normally stand guard and there is some kind of communication or attempted communication going on. The photo is focusing on too small of an area to be sure and I wouldn't be surprised of the photographer took several pictures of this event.
Actually foreigners learn more about this part of Korea than most Koreans because only foreigners are allowed to go here on tours. For South Koreans, if you don't work here, you don't belong here.
 
Yes, the S. Korean sentry's aggressive attitude is legitimate. But I disbelieve that is a proper act of political correctness. The act shows his intent.

"STRONG WARRIOR, STRONG FORCE - REPUBLIC OF KOREA ARMY"
I think the word STRONG should be replaced with word AGGRESSIVE.
 
He's using the word "Strong" because it plays on the Army's motto/slogan.

Also your post shows clearly that you are incapable of individual thought and reasoning and lack any sort of common sense what so ever.
And by the way for a military, aggressive is a good thing.
 
Regisvo said:
"STRONG WARRIOR, STRONG FORCE - REPUBLIC OF KOREA ARMY"
I think the word STRONG should be replaced with word AGGRESSIVE.
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And why exactly are you so obsessed with the word "aggressive?" Why should being aggressive have to be a bad thing, especially when we're talking about armed forces? The very fundamental idea behind bearing weapons in the first place -for any given reason- is aggressive by definition.

Aggressive, I tell you...

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It takes four Chinese tanks to take on a guy coming back from the supermarket.
Just kidding. I remember when this happened. Interesting times to be living in pre-hand over Hong Kong.
 
Are ROK-U.S. War Games Only for Defense?

Operational plan 5027-04 is a sticking point between citizens' groups and the military authority

Kim Tae-kyung/Cheong Wook-sik (internews) Email Article Print Article

Published 2006-04-07 15:18 (KST)



U.S.-ROK Joint Exercise: Offensive or Defensive? / Kim H.J.
Does the Joint Military Exercise of South Korea and the U.S. aim at defending itself or attacking North Korea? Or does it have a combined purpose of defense and attack? OhmyTV reports some relevant scenes, which may inflame long-standing issues between citizens' groups and the military authority.

"The Joint Commander of the ROK (Republic of Korea, South Korea) and the U.S. Combined Force ordered amphibious operations in order to push and isolate Pyongyang. To accomplish this, the authority issued its first order for the landing forces to conduct amphibious operations at 9 a.m. on March 30 in the North-western coastal regions."

OhmyTV reported the briefing of the Ministry of Defense before officials of the ROK and U.S. military authorities on March 30. The military exercise conducted on the day was part of the "Reception, Staging, Onward-Movement and Integration and Foal Eagle (RSOI-FE)" training of the combined forces.

The command post for the training was built near the highway in the Manripo beach on March 30. The military authority briefed the purpose of this military exercise by using microphones and amplifiers. Therefore, villagers and tourists in town, as well as reporters, could hear all the announcements of the authority.

It seems that the military authority wanted to warn North Korea by announcing its exercise in a public place. The following is some of the briefing.


The military force conducted the RSOI exercise in the Manripo beach in Taean County, Seosan City, Chungnam Province, on March 30.

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©2006 Kwon W.S

"Our army annihilated the North Korean troops in the 'A' region, and is continuously marching towards the northern region. Our 'B' force is attacking the enemies in the eastern region and preparing for its victory against the North Korean army.

The Air Component Command (ACC) maintains the superiority over the North Korean air force. The Marine Component Command (MCC) is also deploying its forces to the north in order to support amphibious operations at the western coast. The command of the Combined Marine Corps of the ROK and the U.S. is preparing for amphibious operations in the western coast in order to isolate Pyongyang...

All the necessary conditions (for amphibious operations) are well-prepared at this moment. The 'C' region, located in the frontline area, has been already taken over by our military."

In the briefing, the Joint Military Authority announced specific regions to occupy before the invasion of Pyongyang and specific areas where the Combined Military Forces would land. According to Tongil News (Reunification News), the third stage and the second part of the operational plan "5027-04" was applied to this military exercise.
The government of South Korea and the U.S. military authorities have emphasized that the RSOI-FE aimed at restraining a war and focuses on defense. They have argued that the Combined Forces of the ROK and the U.S. could improve its capabilities through this exercise so that it could more efficiently defend the Republic of Korea from enemies.

Park Geun-hye, the Chairperson of the Grand National Party in South Korea, said on April 4 that a few citizens' groups and students falsely claimed the defensive joint military exercise as an offensive action against North Korea. She also criticized the government of South Korea for neglecting to prevent the illegal, dangerous, perennial demonstration of students.

The OPLAN-5027 defines North Korea's reaction to the bombing of the U.S. as one of "contingent situations."


The Combined Force of the ROK-U.S. conducted its RSOI training on the Manripo beach in Taean County, Seosan City, Chungnam Province on March 30.The command post’s tent was set nearby motels and sea.

©2006 Kwon W.S

However, the briefing of the Ministry of Defense strongly implies that the purpose of the RSOI-FE includes not only defensive strategies, but also the occupation of North Korea.

Let's take a close look at the content of the OPLAN-5027-04.
After the end of the Korean War, the initial purpose of the strategic plan was to repel the North Korean military north over the 38th parallel. However, the plan has been gradually changing to be more offensive. Particularly, the principle of the plan has been greatly altered after George W. Bush was inaugurated president of the U.S. in 2000.

Kwon Young-ghil, a parliament member from the Democratic Labor Party, disclosed the "2002 guidelines of strategic planning" to the public in October last year. According to this document, the Combined Force Command (CFC) and the United Nations Command (UNC) designate "strategic purposes" of the strategic plan as to destroy the North Korean military, to remove the North Korean regime and to promote conditions for the reunification in the Korean Peninsula by the amendment of the OPLAN-5027-04.

The OPLAN-5027-04 newly defines the concepts of "contingency in the Korean Peninsula."

The plan previously limited contingent situations in an invasion by North Korea or clear indications on an invasion. However, the Bush administration has included North Korea's reaction to bombing by the U.S. in the contingency plan.

As North Korea's revenge against bombing by the U.S. can trigger a war under the conditions of the strategic plan, it would not be convincing to explain that the purpose of the RSOI-FE was to defend (rather than to attack) if the recent training was conducted according to the plan.
The strategic plan implies that the CFC has adopted the concept of "preventive war" in its military strategies against North Korea.

Furthermore, the plan has become closely connected to other strategic plans such as the 5026 and the 5029.

The Security Consultative Meeting (SCM) of South Korea and the U.S. drew outlines of the above changes on Dec. 6, 2002 -- at the end of the Kim Dae-joong administration in South Korea. The new content of the plan was adopted in December 2003 after a review process throughout the summer -- in the beginning of the incumbent Roh Moo-hyun administration.

"No interference in special police duties"
The content of the OPLAN-5027 has been circulated in public through overseas security related institutes and domestic and international media. However, the governments of South Korea and the U.S. have never confirmed the content, including the isolation and surrender of Pyongyang and the removal of the Kim Jung-Il regime in North Korea.

Therefore, the briefing of the Ministry of Defense on the Manripo beach has, in fact, confirmed the media's report on the OPLAN-5027.

On March 30, members of citizens' groups and NGOs attempted to bloc the soldiers of the Combined Force from conducting the amphibious exercise on the Manripo beach. The Ministry of Defense laid a complaint against 18 people from the citizens' groups for "interference in special police duties."
The citizens' groups and NGOs held a press conference in front of the Ministry of Defense on April 4. They argued that this joint military exercise violated the principle of peace adopted in Article 5 of South Korea's Constitution, as well as the Mutual Defense Treaty between the ROK and the U.S. According to them, their attempt to prevent offensive military training against North Korea must be justified.

You Young-jae, a team leader of the citizens' group, Solidarity for Peace and Reunification of Korea, said that the suspicion of "interference in special police duties" could only be applied to actions that interfered with the legal execution of official duties. However, according to You, this accusation against the citizens' groups is invalid because the joint military exercise was not an appropriate official duty.

From 'Defense' to 'Offense'
The changes in the history of OPLAN-5027






©2006 Kwon W.S

The OPLAN-5027 was initially created to prevent and defeat an invasion by North Korea.

The operational plan was prepared shortly after the end of the Korean War, and initially focused on defensive strategies to repel North Korea over the 38th parallel if it invaded South Korea. The U.S. partially changed the initial plan in 1973 by adopting the "Forward Defense" strategies allowing for the occupation of Kaesung City in North Korea when it comes to a push. However, by then, the plan did not include a strategy to occupy the entire territory of North Korea by force.

However, since the mid-1980s, the plan has been more significantly changed. The "strategies for the occupation of North Korea" has become part of the OPLAN-5027, as the U.S. introduced tactics of air assaults attacking the core territories of enemies in its military strategies.
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The operational plan includes the tactic that the Combined Marine Corps of the ROK. and the U.S. would conduct amphibious operations in Wonsan City in North Korea, if necessary. This tactic aims to defeat the North Korean military and besiege Pyongyang in cooperation with the Combined Army marching north.

When rumours of a war on the Korean Peninsula were circulated in February 1994 due to the stalemate of negotiations on nuclear weapons between North Korea and the U.S., several media (including Sisa Journal) reported the five steps of the OPLAN-5027-94; the Combined Force of the ROK and the U.S. defeats North Korea in response to a crisis on the Korean Peninsula and eventually occupies and unifies North Korea by force.

Step 1: to enhance capabilities for deterrence, as well as prompt actions;
Step 2: to resist North Korea’s invasion of the north of Seoul and to destroy the civilian front of North Korea;
Step 3: to completely destroy the major forces of North Korea and conduct amphibious operations in Wonsan City and other regions on a large scale;
Step 4: to isolate Pyongyang and set martial law in the occupied territories;
Step 5: to finally unify the Korean Peninsula led by the ROK and the U.S. alliance.
In 1998, the principle of OPLAN-5027 was changed again. The plan previously supposed a possible invasion by North Korea. However, the plan adopted the strategies of "pre-emptive attacks."

If "conclusive evidence" suggesting North Korea's war preparation is detected, the plan allows for a pre-emptive attack of the ROK and the U.S. alliance in order to destroy artillery battalion and missile and air force stations in North Korea.

Moreover, the strategies of amphibious operations have been more concretized. According to the plan, the U.S. army, air and marine forces would conduct cooperative amphibious operations in order to attack the middle of North Korea and promptly conquer the entire territory.
The OPLAN-5027 in 2000 added a plan for a large expansion of U.S. reinforcements.

The U.S. increased the number of the reinforcements from 480,000 in the early 1990’s to 630,000 in the mid 1990's. In 2000, the number was expanded to 690,000. The plan also includes plans to enhance military capacity in response to North Korea’s weapons of mass destruction and field artillery.

Later, the operational plan was changed to the OPLAN-5027-04 with a new definition of "contingency."
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That's right, we are aggressive and we aim to conduct mass genoice. Today Korea, tomorrow the continent, next year the world!
We will force you ALL to eat Kimchi as a part of every meal.
 
That's the best part!
Manditory meals...

Breakfast:
Rice, Kimchi, Kimchi Soup, cooked Kimchi with iced white Kimchi soup and a solution of bear testicles ground with some powder made of deer antler to give you energy for the day ahead.

Lunch:
Rice, Kimchi, Dog Meat, some other kind of hot and depressing soup that never cools down.

Dinner:
Rice, Kimchi, LIVE OCTOPUS, raw fish, ox tail soup and for desert, sugar coated ginseng.

Abu Grahib ain't got sh*t on a full course Korean meal. hehehe



The worst part about being stationed on that island was that when the weather was bad and the boats didn't run, we were stuck with rice and several different variations of kimchi. For some reason there seems to be an ENDLESS supply of that stuff.
Check it, Kimchi is also used to sterilize wounds if nothing else is available.
 
the_13th_redneck said:
That's right, we are aggressive and we aim to conduct mass genoice. Today Korea, tomorrow the continent, next year the world!
We will force you ALL to eat Kimchi as a part of every meal.
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Perhaps you are right. Let's see your historian's newly-made Korean historical map.

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