Administration Diverges On Missile Defense

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Washington Post
October 24, 2007
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Bush Pushes for System in Europe; Gates Urges 'Definitive Proof' of Iranian Threat
By Michael Abramowitz and Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writers
President Bush said yesterday that a missile defense system is urgently needed in Europe to guard against a possible attack on U.S. allies by Iran, while Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates suggested that the United States could delay activating such a system until there is "definitive proof" of such a threat.
The seemingly contrasting messages came as the Bush administration grappled with continuing Russian protests over Washington's plan to deploy elements of a missile defense system in Eastern Europe. The Kremlin considers the program a potential threat to its own nuclear deterrent and has sought to play down any threat from Iran.
Both Bush and Gates affirmed that they want to proceed with deployment of the system, including 10 antimissile interceptors in Poland and a radar-tracking facility in the Czech Republic projected for completion in 2012. Bush cited Iran's development of ballistic missiles that could strike Israel and Turkey, and said Tehran is also developing missiles that could strike NATO countries.
"The need for missile defense in Europe is real, and I believe it's urgent," Bush said in his remarks at the National Defense University. "Today," he added, "we have no way to defend Europe against the emerging Iranian threat, so we must deploy a missile defense system there that can."
At a separate appearance in Prague, Gates suggested that Russian concerns could be allayed by delaying operation of the Eastern European system until the Iranian missile threat to Europe materialized. "We have not fully developed this proposal," Gates said, "but the idea was we would go forward with the negotiations, we would complete the negotiations, we would develop the sites, build the sites, but perhaps would delay activating them until there was concrete proof of the threat from Iran."
White House officials said that there was no daylight between Bush and Gates, saying that Gates is committed to the system but is looking for ways to address the Russian objections. White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said there is no doubt that "the program will go forward."
In his speech yesterday, Bush discussed his efforts to combat international terrorism and rogue states and emphasized missile defense, an initiative he sees as a major legacy. Since taking office, Bush has declared operational a system meant to destroy incoming nuclear warheads that has not been completely tested -- provoking criticism from defense and arms control experts who question its cost-effectiveness.
Bush initially depicted the system as meant to counter a missile threat from North Korea but lately has emphasized the threat from Iran, which the administration says is trying to develop a nuclear weapon. The White House has disputed suggestions that it is trying to lay the groundwork for military strikes, saying that Bush is focused on diplomatic efforts to halt Iran's activities -- which Tehran says involve nuclear energy, not weaponry.
U.S. officials say the 2012 deployment date is meant to precede Iran's projected development of nuclear weapon and its development of a long-range ballistic missile capability by 2015.
Yesterday, Bush said the intelligence community assessed that Iran could do it "before 2015," but he said Tehran would need foreign assistance.
A July report by the Congressional Research Service said that, as of mid-2007, "Iran has only flight-tested one medium-range missile, the single-stage Shahab-3, having a range of 1,300-2,000 kilometers," or about 1,200 miles. CRS also noted that many experts disagree with the U.S. assessment of Iran's capabilities.
"The international security policy and ballistic missile proliferation community argue that evidence of an Iranian ICBM program is scant and unconvincing," the CRS reported. Russian President Vladimir Putin has also expressed skepticism, and the Iranians said they dropped development of an ICBM, the CRS reported.
U.S. lawmakers this year voted indirectly to delay the missile interceptor site deployment in Poland. As Bush acknowledged yesterday, about $139 million has been cut from the fiscal 2008 Pentagon budget request, money that was to pay for preliminary preparation of the Polish site.
"Missile defense is a vital tool for our security, it's a vital tool for deterrence and it's a vital tool for counterproliferation," Bush said. "Despite all these benefits, the United States Congress is cutting funding."
Further obstacles loom in Poland, where the liberal Civic Platform party won recent elections. It had pledged to withdraw Polish troops from Iraq and to renegotiate the deal permitting installation of the U.S. missile interceptor field. Polls of Polish people have regularly found that a majority disapprove of the U.S. interceptor base.
The U.S. system plans to use a ground-based interceptor that will not be tested before 2011. The European interceptor will be a two-stage version of a larger missile that has been problematic for the Pentagon's Defense Missile Agency.
 
Oh boy, looks like young Master Robert is already having problems with "The Decider".
Things could get ugly...

The Missile shield has nothing to do with Defense it has everything to do with awarding a huge defense contract to the Defense industry complex much like its predecessor the STAR-WARS program was. It has only one use protection from a Missile Strike from Iran, countries like Russian, China, Pakistan or anyone else who already has a nuclear weapon it offers no protection.

But even if Iran gets a nuclear weapon it still doesn't have a weapon system capable of carrying it to the USA. So what we are building is a defense system that:

1. Violates many differnt international treaties signed by better presidents than this one.
2. 'Protects' us against a threat not yet in existence and against a country who doesnt have the means (a ICBM) nor desire to strike at us.

*Lets face it, the Mullahs like being in power. The fastest way for them to be out of power is a nuclear war with the USA. It would be suicide. The Mullahs are not that desperate for mrytardom.

3. Costs a fortune -money goes to friendly GOP election contributors.

4. Reliability is suspect. So far its only hit its target 50% of the time, and thats assuming someone isnt fudging the figures.

5. Pointless, as the very next president (likely a Democrat, but even a Moderate Republican) will under enormous pressure to reduce spending and will most likely cut the project, as nobody seems to want it except Big Business.
 
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Assumptions...
:bang:
Do you or did you work for any of the contractors working in this system?
Where did 50% come from?
Name the contributors to the GOP...
When did we start assigning rationality to fanaticals?
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The missile defense system is a bargaining chip, quite possibly the ultimate bargaining chip. It renders how many trillions of dollars worth of weapons aimed at our country or our allies useless? Yet - like a true liberal, its all about a right wing conspiracy... :whip:
 
4 test 2 failed = 50% success rate
Failed in 2004+2005
Succeed in 2006* + 2007

*This test was highly scripted according to the DOD. The launchers knew the time, location, and direction of the target. A bit of cheating you ask me. 2007 was a fair test.

Boeing Thats a big GOP lobby right there. They make the damn thing.
Lockheed (they make 1 of the boosters) another big, actually HUGE GOP contributor.

Conspiracy? Read a history book. Specifically Eisenhowers warning about the trepidations in politics of the Defense-industry complex. This White Elephant would have been case in point to IKE. Those that don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

It renders how many trillions of dollars worth of weapons aimed at our country or our allies useless?

Exactly $0.00 Trillion! Because Iran nor Korea have a functional WMD or an ICBM system yet. Its like inventing a cure for a non-existent disease, and at the tune of about $100 Billion. Like the Bridges to Nowhere in Alaska, more money well spent.




 
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I'm sorry - maybe we should wait till your brother Vladimir actually gives Iran a nuke before we start building a missile defense system.
Talk about falling asleep behind the wheel - :sleep: - then again, isn't that what Clinton did with North Korea?
Oops - Clinton actually shared the technology w/ North Korea! :bravo:
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Concering GOP donors - last I heard, your front runner Hillary has quite a large war chest - but that comes from the masses, correct?
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