I thikn its better to have a child beeing aborted then dumped in a dumpster or anywhere else because the parents arnt able to take care of it.

Originally Posted by AlexKall

I thikn its better to have a child beeing aborted then dumped in a dumpster or anywhere else because the parents arnt able to take care of it.

Exactly. The lesser of two evils.

About a month ago my classmates and i debated over the case of abortion for weeks on end for a school project. I had to write a paper against abortions because i was a republican. So here it is:

Every single living being should have the equal chance to live a happy and successful life. We, the Republicans, believe abortion should be illegal, however, cases of rape and fatality to the mother are exceptions to our policy. By the time the mother knows of the pregnancy, the embryo has grown into a creature with heartbeats and dream waves. Killing the fetus is murder. The child inside has done nothing to be killed, yet its life is being taken away for the convenience of the mother. Just because the mother does not want to endure the pains of child labor, she in turn chooses to tolerate the pains of abortion. Other problems with the operation includes infections, internal bruising, bleeding, and in some cases death. Further more, the post-abortion syndrome traumatizes the woman for life. Out of the 300,000 women, who had an abortion, 85 percent choose to be pro-life and against abortions. Constantly, these 85percent feel the guilt ending the life of an unborn child. More importantly in the past few years, the rate of abortions is dropping by 5 percent due to the other existing alternatives such as adoption centers.

I voted that Abortion isn't murder (female)

I have no children and have never been pregnant before. Personally I DON'T want to ever have children. If things happened and I became pregnant, I would have and raise the baby.

That being said, it is everyone's choice on whether or not to abort a baby. And yes, especially in cases of rape and health issues other similar cases.... However, there are some women who have three or more abortions, for no reason other than they don't want children. I do think that is most definately wrong.

Originally Posted by 1217

Well, FutureOKtrooper, you want it to be legal to abort in case of rape, but not in case of an accidental pregnancy? Then you'll get people saying they've been raped to be allowed to get an abortion. I don't think that'll help.
And what if the mother isn't capable of taking care of the child in one way or another?
I'm not saying that an unborn child doesn't have rights, I'm saying it does.... and so do the parents. It will always be a tense topic... but I voted "no"

There are ways to determine if a woman has been raped or not. Yes, I know it isn’t fool proof but what is? No doubt someone will slip through the cracks. As for not being able to raise a child, that’s no excuse. They have programs for people like that, programs that will pay your rent and utilities, food and even car payments while you’re pregnant. When the child is born, you put it up for adoption. Give it to a family that, for some reason or another, can’t have children of their own.

This thread can grow and grow, we can debate for weeks but I will not change my opinion. Abortion should not be used as birth control!

Originally Posted by FutureOKtrooper

When the child is born, you put it up for adoption. Give it to a family that, for some reason or another, can’t have children of their own.

Unfortunately, with the advent of invitro fertilization, serrogate mothers, and fertility drugs, more and more couples are not going for adoption. Isn't that a shame??

Well sperm lybs aint much popular these days, cause of the unpleasent effect that myght ocure

Originally Posted by FutureOKtrooper

As for not being able to raise a child, that’s no excuse. They have programs for people like that, programs that will pay your rent and utilities, food and even car payments while you’re pregnant.

I said "in one way or another" I didn't only mean financially. People make mistakes, accidents happen. Women can get pregnant even if they are being responsible and using birth control. I really think it's not in the child’s best interest to let them be born while the mother is 16 years old and not capable of raising it on her own. The mother wouldn't be able to go to school anymore, and won't get a chance to make something out of her life, all because of one mistake? Or even worse, because of dumb bad luck?

Originally Posted by FutureOKtrooper

When the child is born, you put it up for adoption. Give it to a family that, for some reason or another, can’t have children of their own.

Nice thought, but I don't think that's in the child's best interest (or the mother's) to give it up for adoption. There's lots of people trying to help adopted children, and I respect them, but in lots of cases it creates more problems than it solves. Mothers and children get traumatised by this course of action, and in the case of the kids, now there can be no discussion whether they are "human beings" or not. They are and in my opinion you can't just give 'em up for adoption, I think that's worse than abortion for both the mother and the baby in a lot of cases.

Originally Posted by Plus what mvilla2426

Unfortunately, with the advent of invitro fertilization, serrogate mothers, and fertility drugs, more and more couples are not going for adoption. Isn't that a shame??

Originally Posted by FutureOKtrooper

Abortion should not be used as birth control!

I never said it should be used as birth control. In my mind that would mean that people wouldn't use any other way of birth control than abortion, and that will never happen. Abortion is legal here, and that doesn't lead to more pregnancies than before it was legal. Don't forget, abortion is a traumatic experience for all the involved. People that would do it lightly aren't normal and the child is better of aborted in those (few) cases.

Originally Posted by FutureOKtrooper

This thread can grow and grow, we can debate for weeks but I will not change my opinion.

Everyone has a right to his own opinion, I respect yours, I just don’t share it completely

Originally Posted by Marksman

Well sperm lybs aint much popular these days, cause of the unpleasent effect that myght ocure

What "unpleasant effect" are you talking about

I agree that the couple should have a choice either singularly or collectively, but the choice should be made before pregnancy not after.
I'm against abortion. In this day and age,except in some third world countries, people know about birth control. Don't punish an unborn child because you did the deed but don't like the results.

I need to add something. I'm against abortion as I said except in cases of rape, incest, and if the health of the mother is at risk. I believe in adoption, both of my kids are adopted. There are a lot of childless couples out there that would love to have a baby.
If we can prosecute an individual for double murder in the death of a mother and her unborn child then I think abortion can be murder. Partial birth abortion IS MURDER! Thanks for listening