We were taking about the ISIS who in the last 6 months has butchered thousands and gone to the point of crucifying innocent Christians who are not even a party to the conflict. In less than 3 months they have made a million people homeless. This is a human rights catastrophe.
And as discussed in those threads I beleive that ISIS need to be destroyed they a fanatics that will never make peace and can not be allowed to grow.
I agree with your solution "single statehood, equal status for all Israeli – Palestinian - Arab," for peace
it basically makes sense.
My point here is the 96 killed by the IRD bombing is small when compared to other atrocities in the neighborhood.
That is all. I wonder why all the temper about the Israeli issue with every else going on. I may be naïve.
I would argue that 1 death is too many in any neighbourhood but fence off and area of 139 square miles pack 1.7 million people into it and then get the US Airforce to hit thousands of targets in it and then tell me it isn't that big a deal.
The temper is simple I am arguing with a man that is a paid propaganda merchant and listening to a man that would deny his own existence if his employers told him to is agrivating.
Here is a link for RT that explains it a little better, listen to the section where Norman Finkelstein and Mouin Rabbani talk about Dan Arbell talking in nothing but scripts, sound bites and out of date cliches because that is what he is doing.
http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/171904-israel-assault-gaza-strip/
Unlike WW2 or conflicts directly involving US military I don’t have the deep understanding yet of this one but I am beginning to gain ground. I’ve been reading the treads, news, internet and talking to both Arabs and Jews and am starting to have a bit of an understanding of this most complex situation.
I think there is a mistake in your thinking there though as talking to Arabs and Jews doesn't really work as all "Arabs" are not the same much in the same way all Europeans are not the same (Spanish are not the same as Poles in terms of their views and priorities for example) so you cant really say I have spoken to Europeans and I understand the Ukrainian crisis.
Personally I would spend less time talking to Jews and Arabs and learn about Zionism as that is what drives this conflict.
If by some chance you get an opportunity to go there, go via Jordan, cross into the West Bank and speak to Palestinians and settlers do not rely on the Disneyland experience that Israel will offer you as that will give you a false impression.
My suggestion is learn in layers read what each side has to say and then analyse that data, do not take anything at face value (as one side uses paid internet propaganda) this as much a propaganda war as it is a shooting one perhaps more so therefore you will have to look at multiple layers of the conflict.