82nd and 101st Airbourne Divisions




 
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November 19th, 2004  
Young Winston
 
 

Topic: 82nd and 101st Airbourne Divisions


Are there any major difference between these two divisions?

eg. size, weaponry, objectives, history, and reputations.
November 19th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Other than the fact that the 82nd remains a "true" Airborne division. And the 101st is an Air Assault division with some Airborne (parachute) assets attached. They are both light Infantry.
November 19th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
as 03USMC said, both divisions are light infantry. The 82nd has around 14,000 troops while the 101st has over 20,000 soldiers. I know the 101st is in the process of making a new brigade, and I am sure the 82nd will follow suit.

The main difference between the divisions is Air Assault vs Airborne. The 101st sole purpose is to do air assault operations while the 82nd does mainly airborne operations. I know the 82nd can air assault too, but only in a limited capacity. Being Air Assault is why the 101st is much bigger than the 82nd. Here at the 101st, we have choppers, choppers and more choppers. I believe we got over 300 of the birds.

THe 82nd and 101st share simular unit histories. The 82nd Division was first formed during WWI. The division was reformed in WWII and served in Italy and in Europe. The division was reformed in the 50's. the 82nd played a limited roll in Vietnam. Troops from the 82nd were sent to the Dominican Republic and to Vietnam as rapid deployment troops during the TET Offensive.

The 101st was formed during WWII. THe 101st served in Europe. The 187 INF REG was added to the 101st later. The Rakkasans were the first US paratroopers to jump against the Japanese. The division was reinstated in the 50's and served in Vietnam. The 101st did the main fighting in the A Shau Valley (Movie Hamburger Hill).

After Nam, most should know the histories of the 82nd and 101st.

edit: oops I forgot the 82nd did a jump in Korea. There was a general in Korea that saved the 82nd from being used in suicide missions. GEN Ridgway took over the ailing 8th Army and turned it into a bunch of fighting men. After the successful airborne operation, higherups wanted to use the 82nd for impossible missions. Since Ridgway commanded the 18th Airborne Corps in WWII, he knew better and protected the 82nd.
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November 23rd, 2004  
Young Winston
 
 
Thanks for that 03 and Doody. The info cleared a lot of things up for me.
November 24th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
glad to be of service sir!!!!

is there anything else you would like to know???
November 24th, 2004  
No MERCY
 
 

Topic: wow


I didnt kno that. All i knew is that they were seperated and killed durin the war against germany. There was heavy fire and since in was night time the drop didnt go as welll planned.
November 24th, 2004  
Young Winston
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doody
glad to be of service sir!!!!

is there anything else you would like to know???
Thanks Doody. I'll go and have a look at 101st (Fort Campbell) website now. I'll get back to you if something comes to mind.
November 27th, 2004  
ltdave
 
my 82nd airborne buddy calls the 101st 'dopes on a rope'...

just some friendly ribbing....

me? im airforce and have no dog in this hunt...

david
November 27th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
that's what I say too and I am with the 101st

I have also heard the 101st called puking/screaming chickens.

During the Vietnam War, the NVA and VC thought the Eagle patch was a chicken. When the war started, all US Army units had colored unit patches on thier uniforms. At some point, the Army changed the unit patches to subdued colors. The 101st was allowed to keep their colored patch because the NVA and VC respected and feared the 101st.

That is my history lesson for the day

SGT Doody
November 27th, 2004  
soldierzhonor
 
 
yup, the vietnamese knew the 101st as the "chicken men" because of the patch, and they feared the chicken men.

The 101st is the only air assault division in the free world. They are also mairborne per se, but not airborne as in jump qualified. Its the one post at Ft Campbell where you'll also see the air assault wings worn above the airborne wings due to esprit de corps of the 101st.

Yes air assault is nicknamed dope on a rope, same as airborne is nicknamed dirt darts or lawn darts.

Air assault is used for almost the same purpose as airborne which is to do ops behind enemy lines and also for quick movement of troops to a battleline or area.

p.s. nap of the earth is a wonderful thing

edit: The nickname of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), "Screaming Eagles," originates from the division's insignia, a bald eagle on a black shield. Old Abe was the eagle mascot of a Wisconsin regiment during the Civil War. The 101st was formed as a reserve unit in Wisconsin shortly after World War I and included "Old Abe" as part of the division's insignia. The motto of the 101st is "Rendezvous With Destiny." The 101st has such a rich history I love reading about it. Im a 101st fan before, during, and after my 2 years with them.
Always first sir!
101st!
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