2005; worst year ever? (long but worth it!) - Page 4




 
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December 31st, 2004  
chewie_nz
 
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Originally Posted by Jason Bourne
actually, chewie, yes fox news is fair an balanced, but i guess you only listen to Al Jazeera.
i bet you also think that the US started the earthquake too huh, right, i bet we have some new weapon, and we made that all happen, right, h**l why not just blame the everything on us, right chewie
no need for sarcarcasim mate. i watch both BBC and fox news. often they report the same stories but in very different ways. i have made my own choice that fox news is NOT fair and balanced. i prefer the BBC.

but just so you're happy;

http://www.aljazeera.com/home.asp

and Dtop, i said with my first post that is was and OPINION PIECE, and for one last time that i did not write it. there has been quite alot of anti american sentiment in the last four years, i was just showing it. i liked the article and thought we could get some debate going (which it did) i know myself (and others) let emotion get in the way of that debate a little too much (also see the thread on US torture in military discussions).

but i stick by my point that for a country so willing to pour massive amounts of cash and resources into a war, the reaction to this human tradgedy on a global scale has been VERY slow. but i'm sure they'll make up for it
December 31st, 2004  
Jason Bourne
 
it takes time, okay, we are sending people, and we are donating money, don't think that the second something happens that someone will be there to help immediately
December 31st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Well Shuck's Chewie. Dang Sorry we're not moving fast enough to suit ya.
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January 1st, 2005  
AlexKall
 
EDIT: Everyone ***********! Think about the victims instead of sitting here arguing who helped more or less! Do your bit!

Mod Edit: Tone it down and keep it civil.
January 1st, 2005  
Damien
 
Thank you, AlexKall.

Before I say anything, I should have you all know I haven't read into the tragedy much, just heard tidbits of information, so I won't focus on the numbers too much.

First, I think(in regards to the stuff about celebrities) that they all need to be paid a lot less and that money can go to the relief fund. If they don't like it, maybe they should get in their private jets with full luxuries and go visit the coastline.

Oh, not the coastline of America with our beautiful beaches and Five-star hotels, I mean the coastline of Indonesia, of India. Maybe seeing all that REALITY will make them a little more HUMAN.

The writer of that crap says the football players earned all that money... All they've earned is respect from the people watching them on TV. If they think they EARNED the millions they get, I think all they've earned is the need for a swift kick in the with spiked boots.

This with the NHL on strike because they don't get paid enough... I'm sick of it. At least some people, like former Devils player Scotty Gomez(an old friend of mine) love the game for the GAME, not for the money.

Now, I'm not exactly the wealthiest person in Alaska, nor am I the poorest by far, but if I had any money of my own, I'd send every penny I could to the relief fund for this. The fact is, as much as I disagree with some of the stuff on that little deal Chewie posted, America does need to send a bit more. Maybe if Jay Leno sold a few of his Porsches and sent the money to the relief fund, or if Dante Culpepper gave up some of his benefits to help rebuild Indonesia I'd be a little more pleased with the American media tools.

However, I'm not. As much as I'm glad Bush was re elected, I'm really starting to consider leaving the country. Because I can't stand the fact that people here are never pleased with how big their wallets are, or how fast and shiny their car is. We like to think we send out SO MUCH to these other countries, but the guy was right.

I'd like to close by saying that I do not mean any of this as Anti-American slander. I'm simply stating my concern that our "idols" care too much about their own legacies. Don't get me wrong. Some of them help considerably with charity and I think that's great, but some of them really need to open up their bank accounts a bit more and give parts of their fortunes to those who REALLY need it.

I guess that's all I have to say.

EDIT: And I apologize for all the obscenities, but sometimes talking like that helps me get my point across. Sorry.
January 1st, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
Leaving the Country? Well I'm surprised that General Puller hasn't left as your avater and taken the Marine Corps Colors and National Ensign with him. After that statement.
January 1st, 2005  
Damien
 
I'm just a little pissed about things going on with our upper class these days... Since the actors and athletes kinda represent us for the world, everyone's opinion of us is starting to deteriorate. I was in a ranty mood last night, too.
January 2nd, 2005  
c/Commander
 
 
U.S. aid is up to $350 million. Is that enough for one nation, or are we still being "stingy"?

I think that one of the real indicators should be that, during a time of war, the United States is still sending a Marine Expeditionary Unit (220 Sailors and Marines), the USS Abraham Lincoln, and a good chunk of the Pacific Fleet to aid in the relief effort. That's about 10k-15k personnel...DURING A WAR. Why are we being accused of "stinginess"?
January 2nd, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
the stingy comment was made after the "big" announcment of $35 mil. which to alot of people was stingy.

and i think the outcry about it and comparisons with other countries led the US to donate more cash to the cause. i could be wrong though

also i think it's a huge help that cash is being sent rather than food, as when food is supplied it has the unwanted side effect of triggering a cycle of poverty;

food donated -> farmers can't sell produce -> farmers out of business -> now they need handouts
January 2nd, 2005  
C/2nd Lt Robot
 
 
Giving aid to a country isn't an auction you know. How about looking at what the total amount of aid is being sent. You also have to remember that the US also has to take care of it's citizens, Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, and Airmen.