1956 Suez Crisis - Page 2




 
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June 25th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
The Suez canal was dug as an international shipping lane. It is illieagal to close it down to another country. Nasser new full well what Israel would do, since Israel had no choice. He also threatend and prevented Israeli shipping in the Red Sea. Nasser was the Saddam Hussain of his time, and I really dont know why you are so quick to rush to his defense. He provoked Israel in to war twice, and lost twice. His own arrogance was his worst enemy.
Comparing him to Saddam might be a bit harsh, IMO. He was an undemocratic dictator, but was he as totalitarian as Hussein?

How did Egypt lose that conflict? I thought France, Israel and the UK were forced to withdraw from Egypt due to US & USSR pressure.
June 25th, 2005  
SHERMAN
 
 
But the entire Egyptian armored force was crushed, and the very real threat of war with Egypt was prosponed for more than a decade. Also, the straights of tiran were opened to Israeli shipping.
June 25th, 2005  
Snauhi
 
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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
But the entire Egyptian armored force was crushed, and the very real threat of war with Egypt was prosponed for more than a decade. Also, the straights of tiran were opened to Israeli shipping.

Yeah Egypt have done nothing but to loose..
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July 23rd, 2005  
LeEnfield
 
 
This war came about over the ownership of the Canal, Now under international law can a country just take over what ever they like. During this time the people of Panama thought that it would be nice if they could do the same thing. What happened in Panama, the American Marines were turned out who then opened fire on the Panamanians, with America saying we built and paid for it and we are going to keep it. Yes I know that things have changed now in Panama, but Britain had had put a great deal of cash into the Suez canal and did not want to see it stolen. If any one is interested I have some pictures of the invasion of Suez in 56 in what was called Operation Musketeer
July 24th, 2005  
Brian Foley
 

Topic: Re: 1956 Suez Crisis


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Originally Posted by bulldogg

International blunder, opportunism or Machiavelan scheming to shift the balance of power?
It was really an Anglo/Franco attempt to set up an economic powerbase in the Mideast to exploit the oil reserves . The Eisenhower administration used the Russian threat as an excuse to end this adventure . The important event to watch was Israel's involvement this came 2 years after the Lavon affair in which Israel attacked US industrial targets in Egypt in an attempt to pin the blame on Eygpt .
July 24th, 2005  
LeEnfield
 
 
Brian Foley.....Could explain how we were trying to set up a power base to get at the oil in the Middle East, for if you check back for that time all the big oil fields in Iraq and Kuwait were run by BP who had discovered them in first place.
July 26th, 2005  
Brian Foley
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
Brian Foley.....Could explain how we were trying to set up a power base to get at the oil in the Middle East, for if you check back for that time all the big oil fields in Iraq and Kuwait were run by BP who had discovered them in first place.
Recall the British had control of Kuwait and large concerns in Iran and France also considerable interests in the mideast . By occupying the Suez canal zone this was to secure a secure route to tranship Anglo/franco oil to Europe . The US controlled most of the distribution of the mideasts oil supply to Europe , this was a very lucrative business . After that date America controlled distribution of virtually the entire mideast supply .
August 24th, 2005  
Pierrot
 
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The Eisenhower administration used the Russian threat as an excuse to end this adventure .
Hum I believe the Russian threat was real, and no one wanted to see the Soviets nuking the UK and France. The french government was very angry, and I believe it is one of the best reason for France to develop its own nuke weapons. Concerning the UK, I don't know how its gov had reacted. Any ideas about this ?
August 27th, 2005  
LeEnfield
 
 
During this time Russia was busy re-invading Poland or Czechoslovakia, but were making a lot of noise about Suez. It must be remembered that Russians had poured a lot a lot of money and arms into Egypt and did not want to lose it. The Russians had paid for most of the work on the Aswan dam and that project needed even more money. During the invasion we found the place was packed with all sorts of Russian Military Equipment. The Egyptians had gone around Port Said throwing out of the back of lorries crates of AK 47s and piles of ammunition, all this ammunition was coloured coded at the tip of the bullets so that you could easily tell just what the round was designed to do. You had armoured piercing, explosive, tracer, and a combination of of these different types of bullets.
It did not take us long before we had ditched our old .303 rifles and became the first unit in the British army to be fully equipped with AK 47's.
These AK 47s had all been made in Czechoslovakia and these rifles all had spring loaded bayonets which leapt out at a touch of a button, mind you the metal the bayonet was made out of was crap, but on straight lunge it would do it's job. When we returned to Cyprus the rotters took away all our AK 47's which we had became rather attched too.
August 27th, 2005  
LeEnfield
 
 
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