1911 Colt .45 - Page 3




 
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May 25th, 2004  
DTop
 
 
nulli, that is incorrect. You would be required to pay for your weapon if you destroyed in through negelct but that new weapon is still government property and it will be an exact replacement according to the TO&E.
May 25th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
I see, so rules set aside, some officers carry their pistols into combat? Im asking all this because in the IDF an officer is allowed to carry a pistol, but he can choose a non-standard, as long as he pays. For example my mom carryed a 6.65mm instead of the standart FN 9mm, because she did not want such a big pistol(she wasent a field officer though), my dad also carryies a S&W 0.38 revolver, instead of the standart pistol(and he was a field officer).
May 25th, 2004  
DTop
 
 
For many officers as well as EMs, a pistol is their official weapon and yes, that is what they carry into combat. Non standard personal firearms are not officially sanctioned although in real life, you can carry many different firearms. In Vietnam, for example, I won't say who but I know EMs that would carry sawed off 12 ga. shotguns on patrol. Against the rules, yes (Geneva Conventions?). Effective in jungle terrain, yes.
There is no option in the U.S. Army for anyone to purchase another type of weapon that I know of. Of course if you are a General you can carry whatever you want but then again, I can't recall often seeing officers of that high rank in my normal AO. I think their definition of "in combat" might be different than mine. It was unusual to see anyone higher than company grade officers out in the boonies but I heard tell they were around
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May 25th, 2004  
C/2nd Lt Robot
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTop
nulli, that is incorrect. You would be required to pay for your weapon if you destroyed in through negelct but that new weapon is still government property and it will be an exact replacement according to the TO&E.
oh ok, but you can request a different sidearm right?
May 25th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
The only other authorized sidearm (that I am aware of) is the M11 9mm SIG-Sauer, but I am under the impression that the only personnel authorized to carry that are CID.
I do not know much as far as the armament of the USMC goes, however.
May 25th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
Why dont they take USP to be an autorized sidearm??
May 25th, 2004  
DTop
 
 
nulli you can request anything you like but it will do you no good. You see, the people who do the military planning do so in part based on a finite quantity and type of weaponry available to a unit. Even down to how many rifles and pistols there are in each unit. If everyone was allowed to carry different firearms how could they even be supplied with ammunition? That is the reason for standardization and for TO&Es in the first place. Any rifle company in the U.S. Army, for example, will have the same number of rifles, pistols, machine guns etc. The Army planners know how much of what kind of ammunition and spare parts they will need for a certain type of mission and that's what they are supplied with. The whole thing boils down to the logistics needed to complete the mission.
May 26th, 2004  
C/2nd Lt Robot
 
 
alright i get it now
June 18th, 2004  
FutureRANGER
 
 
I fired a Springfield 1911 .45 today. It kicks like a mule. But that's coming from a 14 year old with not very much upper body strength (or mass). I liked it though. Its a beautiful weapon. At 100 yards I came about 3 feet away from target (disregard the fact I was just shooting downrange and it was purely luck).
June 18th, 2004  
c/Commander
 
 
I used one for marksmanship training last week...couldn't hit a thing with it beyond 50 yards. The Beretta M9 is better for target-shooting...but which is better under combat conditions?