17 september 1939 - Page 13




 
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June 5th, 2010  
fuser
 
 
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Sorry to intercede on your bullcrap, Rydz Śmigły gave a directive "avoid combat with the Red Army if possible".
So, suddenly his orders became relevant..when it suited you

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Thats it, he did not order his troops not to fight and the reason for this order was to preserve the remnant of the army, Red Army invaded into completely unprotected Polish rear which negated any chance of effective resistance.
Yeah and I should believe it because you say so C'mon at least once try to back up your claim, give some source rather than your version of interpretation and stupid speculations.....

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There's no picture sorry but i bet since you're hell bent on spreading totalitarian communist propaganda
Yeah exacctly the approach I expected you will take... Whenever west couldn't refute a truth they come up with exactly this line... Sorry, nothing new.......

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the picture shows Ukrainian or Jewish citizens, both groups were ardent communist symphatizers they have not been Poles however, just Polish citizens, they also constituted minority and were not a governing class in Polish Commonwealth (Poles were).
Yeah sure if you support red army, you are stupid commie and if you don't you are a great fighter...And this is not propaganda......Any more stupid logics..

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Fuser you're lying and manipulating the facts, its some sort of provocation but still needs to be straightened up for the benefit of a casual reader.The Romanian goverment did not act because Poles specifically stated that they only require Constanta to be open and Romania to help with eventuall evacuation, Poland outright sent a note that it requests Romania to stay out of the war since its neutrality would ensure flow of goods from UK via Constanta.
Source please...How many times I have to remind you people stop spreading propaganda and back up your claims but may be the simple fact is you can't.And who acted on behalf of poles because I clearly remember romanian government admitted that poland have no government. http://chss.montclair.edu/english/fu...signation.html
You see When I say something, I back up them give sources.... That's the way its done but yeah if all your posts are just lies, I can understand, you can't back up them.......
By the way
The Polish government later claimed that it had “released” Rumania from its obligations under this military treaty in return for safe haven in Rumania.
But there is no evidence for this statement.(may be you have) No wonder: it is at least highly unlikely that Rumania would have ever promised “safe haven” for Poland, since that would have been an act of hostility against Nazi Germany.

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Anyway i thought this was a serious forum where neonazis and communists are not allowed?
Yeah its serious and you are making it funny.. So if you can't refute try to ban.... Once again your statement shows your complete lack of knowledge regarding communism, so don't even get started on that........ Don't you guys have library these days or you are completely dependent on TV for your daily dose of propaganda.....
June 5th, 2010  
fuser
 
 
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See now thats a problem with Soviet records, in 1920 after crushing Russia Poland had in its POW camps over 150.000 Russians yet Russia claimed only 20.000 Russians got captured.

In 1939 SU claimed it lost 3000 dead yet in the storming of Grodno alone 900 Russians were killed and this was neither the biggest nor longest of the battles you claim were just "skirmishes".
I would love to see your sources here because its was not SU source that I had provided but the polish source who claimed 3000 dead....Any way SU estimate was 768.....So, another proof of your complete lack of knowledge and it clearly indicates that you just want to believe what suits you and not the facts.... Wake up from your dreams.........

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OK then simple question, did Russian troops cross the border into Poland and fight/murder Poles or not? If so then what purpose would Poland, Germany, Lithuania, Ukraine and even Russian veterans have in lying claiming Russia did invade?
Ok, I got it so when you were unable to refute an argument, you came up with your own Question...The first part of your Question is already answered and its not that simple as you are suggesting it....I suppose you are not a teenager.....and regarding second part of your question, unlike you without reading their claims, I can't comment on it.... I need to study them first and not start parroting like you.....

And my friend you have untouched several of my points which also speaks for itself highly..........
June 5th, 2010  
fuser
 
 
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the logic of Fusers thinking(if one can call this thinking )is
Japan did not invade China in 1937 ,because there was no declaration of war by China
India did not invade Goa,because Portugal did not declare war
India did not invade Sikkim,because Sikkim did not declare war
India did not invade East Pakistan,because no declaration of war by Pakistan
Inonesia did not invade Timor,because no declaration of war by Portugal
You are now on record breaking spree of posting gibberish..
Rather than you I have been backing up every claim of mine with sources which i challenged you to do so and you utterly failed.........
So, you did what you do best "post garbage" which has nothing to do with the debate..... Any way many points you have provided with so simplicity is only exposing the fact that you know nothing about those points.... I really doubt now that have you even completed your high school or not

Kid come back when you have arguments........
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June 5th, 2010  
fuser
 
 
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I will not waste my time with a Stalinist who said that the Polish fought against the Russians from a misplaced sense of nationality and who is claiming that the Poles were very happy when the Red army was invading their country.
Yeah, you won't argue because you can't. (Another gibberish postof yours which has nothing to do with the debate)

You can't refute a single argument, can't back up your single statement...
All you have is your foolish personal speculation......
June 5th, 2010  
Panzercracker
 
Fuser you're either a kid enjoying a provocation or a hardcore stalinist, either way its no point since you'll just continue trolling wont you, have fun, alone.
June 5th, 2010  
fuser
 
 
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Fuser you're either a kid enjoying a provocation or a hardcore stalinist, either way its no point since you'll just continue trolling wont you, have fun, alone.
Panzercracker, all I am asking you people is to provide facts and sources which you have been unable to do.... This is how a normal discussion goes...
If you can't do this I am happy that you are leaving.... As far provocation goes read your own posts "you have been no saint, mostly it was you trolling around when I was giving facts". And hell I can even prove that.......

My first post regarding you was

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You need to read my previous post carefully....

Yes it fought a war with SU total 3000 dead.....Now compare it to the causalities it suffered while fighting germans......As I already said they were nothing more than skirmishes....


Every event of that period suggests that SU was not an aggressor but as here in India we have a proverb which says "when you speak a lie 1000 times it becomes true after some course of time."
This is what happened a lie was forged during cold war..........
Where do you see any provocation or indecency in this post??

Your answer was
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@Fuser.

Are you Russian perchance?
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Sorry to intercede on your bullcrap
These were your lines and I am the one who is trolling WTF........ first learn to criticize yourself before preaching others..Hypocrisy is the least thing that should be welcomed in a debate... If you find any indecency in my post blame yourself for starting it... I am no saint who will behave nicely whereas you are provoking and trolling around....



You see its the facts that matters....... Not what you or me thinks....



But don't worry I know the real reason.... The simple fact is you can't refute the truth, You were also unable to provide a single source, every argument of yours has already been refuted.... Especially the one about casualities

For you now all Have to say is "Come back when you have some facts supported by evidence rather than your Trolling and f.ucking self ignorance...... I can't believe I was debating with a man who don't even know what he himself is posting....
June 5th, 2010  
lljadw
 
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Originally Posted by fuser
You are now on record breaking spree of posting gibberish..
Rather than you I have been backing up every claim of mine with sources which i challenged you to do so and you utterly failed.........
So, you did what you do best "post garbage" which has nothing to do with the debate..... Any way many points you have provided with so simplicity is only exposing the fact that you know nothing about those points.... I really doubt now that have you even completed your high school or not

Kid come back when you have arguments........
June 5th, 2010  
lljadw
 
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Originally Posted by fuser
Yeah, you won't argue because you can't. (Another gibberish postof yours which has nothing to do with the debate)

You can't refute a single argument, can't back up your single statement...
All you have is your foolish personal speculation......
June 5th, 2010  
fuser
 
 
Another meaningless crap as expected from a kid... This debate is just too much for your little brain, go play in some park if bored

June 5th, 2010  
lljadw
 
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Originally Posted by fuser
Another meaningless crap as expected from a kid... This debate is just too much for your little brain, go play in some park if bored