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July 3rd, 2009   Post 31
the_13th_redneck
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Read up on the Taliban. Guys like that should not be allowed to exist. Period.
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July 3rd, 2009   Post 32
Rob Henderson
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Read up on Mugabe... You know about Jong-Il... There are plenty of terrible people in the world... Why start in Iraq? (side note, we originally invaded Afghanistan... Where the terrorists were)...
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July 4th, 2009   Post 33
the_13th_redneck
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I know about Kim Jong-il. Taliban makes the stuff he did look like a slow walk through a park during day time. That book I have up for suggestion is a real eye opener. Also, not written by a Wetern journalist, but a Pakistani. Published back in 2001 before relations between the US and Pakistan really went south.
Read my sentence, says nothing about Iraq.
 
July 4th, 2009   Post 34
Rob Henderson
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It just seems awful convenient that we started in the country next door to the second biggest oil field in the world, AND the country that GWB's father fought against in the 90s....
 
July 4th, 2009   Post 35
the_13th_redneck
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And what part of what I said are you trying to disprove?
 
July 4th, 2009   Post 36
Rob Henderson
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Why Iraq first? Your justification is that the Taliban shouldn't be allowed to exist... I agree, but there are other places in the world that are just as bad if not worse...
 
July 4th, 2009   Post 37
the_13th_redneck
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I don't think it gets any worse than the Taliban at this point.
I've read about a lot of bad people but they really get the number 1 position for the most evil dudes in the modern world.

As for Iraq, it was a mistake to go in but once you mess it up, you have an obligation to fix it. Whether or not it was worth it, or right for that matter, will depend on whether or not the Iraqis can make their country into a respectable one. Twenty years from now, if Iraq turns out alright it'll be another country that the US brought freedom to. If not... well I'm sure you have the answers to that one.
 
July 4th, 2009   Post 38
Chukpike
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Henderson
Why Iraq first? Your justification is that the Taliban shouldn't be allowed to exist... I agree, but there are other places in the world that are just as bad if not worse...
If you believe US foreign policy began after 9/11 then it is understandable why you would want to know why we started with Afghanistan and Iraq. If you look further back in history you might realize that Iraq was not first.

You could say we kicked the British out for messing with our tea supply.

Happy Fourth of July.

Last edited by Chukpike; July 4th, 2009 at 17:33.. Reason: spelling, thanks Rob
 
July 4th, 2009   Post 39
Rob Henderson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I don't think it gets any worse than the Taliban at this point.
I've read about a lot of bad people but they really get the number 1 position for the most evil dudes in the modern world.

As for Iraq, it was a mistake to go in but once you mess it up, you have an obligation to fix it. Whether or not it was worth it, or right for that matter, will depend on whether or not the Iraqis can make their country into a respectable one. Twenty years from now, if Iraq turns out alright it'll be another country that the US brought freedom to. If not... well I'm sure you have the answers to that one.
There's just so much bad in the world... I don't even know if you could give it to just one group of people...

As to Iraq, you're right. I agree completely... We should never have gone in, but we owe it to those innocents to stay and fix what we screwed up. My only qualm about the whole thing is that there seems to be a number of Iraqis who DON'T want democracy... Those who don't want to be like the West, just because they've been programmed to hate it. I know a fair amount of the reason for that appearance is the news, but the fact that they can get that kind of story out there doesn't bode well... As long as there is one person who DOESN't want democracy and freedom over there, the Taliban and Al Queda will have a recruiting base.....


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chukpike
If you believe US foreign policy began after 9/11 then it is understandable why you would want to know why we started with Afganistan and Iraq. If you look further back in history you might realize that Iraq was not first.

You could say we kicked the Brittish out for messing with our tea supply.

Happy Fouth of July.
So you're comparing colonial Great Britain with the atrocities the Taliban has committed? Not by a LONG shot friend. You're completely off the grid with that one.


British has one 't', and fourth has a 't' in it as well... Must be the keyboard.

Last edited by Rob Henderson; July 4th, 2009 at 17:04.. Reason: Responding to Chukpike
 
July 4th, 2009   Post 40
Chukpike
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Henderson
So you're comparing colonial Great Britain with the atrocities the Taliban has committed? Not by a LONG shot friend. You're completely off the grid with that one.
Your ability to read something into what someone else posts is quite a talent.
 



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