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| Centurion | Damn it Reiben,have just read this thread and its too late to answer. Would have got this one for sure,most of Svens writing is fictional(as is my name since i've been asked by PM) but I recomend it as reading but just dont take it as historically correct.
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| | Post 792 |
| Primus Pilus | Yes, Sven Hassell. I thought the name was familiar, he also wrote 'Panzer Leader' about an SS unit who broke out of the Stalingrad pocket. This book is immensely enjoyable, demonstating the brutality of war with its anti heros. However courtesy of Wikepedia "A quick chronological analysis of the activities described in the books appears to show that the regiment depicted in the books fought in several places, hundreds of miles apart, at the same time. Hassel states that the characters are based on real people and events are related to historical events.....books are not taken seriously by historians or military professionals, many of the stories in them are well told, and - like much of fictional writing - some of their background material appears to be derived from authentic accounts..... Erik Haaest, a self-styled Danish journalist, has spent many years trying to debunk Hassel's claims. Haaest writes that Sven Hassel is actually Børge Villy Redsted Pedersen, a Danish Nazi who never served on the Russian front" This may explain why there is no trace of "Speer forest" either!
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| | Post 793 |
| Centurion | The question has not yet been answered. For the unit designation, I will accept the Army and Corps designations, or the name of the commanding General. So for more clues: Keitel went to their HQ to get them to try to save Hitler on April 23rd, 1945. They deliberately mis-interpreted Keitel's orders because he had wanted them to attack two fully equipped and combat ready Soviet Tank Armies. So instead, they decided to attack east, but only to open a corridor to allow civilians and troops to get to the Elbe and the Western Allies. They moved East on the same day. The order to move was given while the Army in question was in heavy contact with the Americans. The orders were made public (sent in the clear) to ensure that the entire Army (actually, what was left of it) would receive them. Dean. Last edited by Dean; May 28th, 2006 at 14:07. |
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| | Post 794 |
| Optio | Kietel visited the headquarters of XX corps at Wiesenberg. The commander was General Kohler. |
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| | Post 795 |
| Centurion | Yes. He did indeed visit XX Corps, although my source says that he spoke with General Wenke, who subsequently gave the order to do an about-face to the Eastern Front. But the XX Corps was in fact the unit of the 12th Army that fought on two fronts on the same day. As far as I can tell, the other units did not actually attack until the next day. Remember that by that time, they were an army in name only. So Reiben, once again, on to you. Dean. |
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| | Post 796 |
| Optio | Got a good question for you all: Whos headquarters (where was it as well) did Churchill fly out to on 11 June 1940? Who did he meet? What did the French want and what was Churchills counter offer? for a bonus point - what type of plane did Churchill fly out in? Hopefully it will even challenge Dean! |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Quote:
http://www.****france.com/read.html?...ies=238&page=1
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| Optio | Quote:
Except the exact location of the meeting, whos headquarters and what was Churchills counter offer. I was really after the names of the french. Couldnt read the link though | |
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Quote:
Given that I find it hard to believe orders were given in public for those reasons I would suspect it was more in the hopes they would get some support from other units and perhaps some reprieve from the western allies.
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| Centurion | Quote:
Dean. Oh, and Reiben, I don't have the foggiest.... yet!!! | |
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