I would call this a MUST SEE!



The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles.
Watch it ASAP because it is not known how long the link will be active. There likely is already strong pressure to remove it.

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

I only saw the first 1:15 of it but I have to agree with what she said to that point. It is a clash of something for sure. Perhaps they need a woman to run things over there eh?

Haha I get the same argument from my in laws every xmas.
While I dont disagree with anything she said it was very much your standard religion vs non-religion argument.

Originally Posted by MontyB

Haha I get the same argument from my in laws every xmas.
While I dont disagree with anything she said it was very much your standard religion vs non-religion argument.

Of course it was. The way I view it this whole mess could be done and over with if they would think with their heads and not their faith. But Man will be Man and few men want things to change so much that it is rendered unrecognizable.

I would argue that she didn't know her as.......... never mind.

The argument isn't whether the fight is a religious (or) non-religious fight ....... the arguement is whether the rest of the world is going to make it so. For the zealots, it is ALL about religion ... for the rest of the world ... it's just about whether a bunch of wackos are going to be allowed to destroy the rest of us or not.

IT COULD VERY WELL END UP BEING A RELIGIOUS WAR THOUGH.






But only if we allow it to.

I disagree Chief. One side can pursue violence against another in the name of religion while the other wants to live in peace and prosperity. One side fights a holy war the other fights for the other intengibles that peace would bring. Those that fight the holy war are not going to stop until they are totally and utterly defeated. They feel they are just and right in their fight.

Or perhaps we both said the same thing in different words?

Originally Posted by Chief Bones

I would argue that she didn't know her as.......... never mind.

The argument isn't whether the fight is a religious (or) non-religious fight ....... the arguement is whether the rest of the world is going to make it so. For the zealots, it is ALL about religion ... for the rest of the world ... it's just about whether a bunch of wackos are going to be allowed to destroy the rest of us or not.

IT COULD VERY WELL END UP BEING A RELIGIOUS WAR THOUGH.






But only if we allow it to.

To be perfectly honest I dont think the world has any say in the out come of this fight, to me the only solution is within the muslim world itself.
As long as the moderates are prepared to be badly led and poor there can be no end.

She speaks the truth about what this war is. It is a war of ideals and backwardness. The good guys fight with honor, rules and respect. the bad guys fight with dishonor, no rules, and by killing women and childern.

I wish I could down load that video and show it to the masses at FIU.

When I saw that Cleric call her a Heretic and say that he needs no reasopn to seak to her because she is a "heretic". I just said yes, she is right. That is what he are fighting.

An enemy with the same level of faith as the Japanese and German Hitler Youth during WWII. These folks are willing to kill themselves to destory us. They will not stop until every last one of us is Muslim or dead. It's that type of war. US or THEM.

She's brilliant and brave

Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm

She speaks the truth about what this war is. It is a war of ideals and backwardness. The good guys fight with honor, rules and respect. the bad guys fight with dishonor, no rules, and by killing women and childern.

I wish I could down load that video and show it to the masses at FIU.

When I saw that Cleric call her a Heretic and say that he needs no reasopn to seak to her because she is a "heretic". I just said yes, she is right. That is what he are fighting.

An enemy with the same level of faith as the Japanese and German Hitler Youth during WWII. These folks are willing to kill themselves to destory us. They will not stop until every last one of us is Muslim or dead. It's that type of war. US or THEM.

You can. Right click on the link and click 'Save target as' and you can download it instead of streaming it. Now then, that being said...I totally agree with her...