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| Milites Gregarius | As I read in one webpage, (sory but I cannot remember the url now) just a few units of Bob Semple tanks were built just to be used in a military parade on New Zealand capitol (Wellington, isn't it?) as a civil morale booster. Well. it seems that it wasn't exactly a morale booster, but a laugh booster. The tank seemed so ridiculous it was never seen again. |
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| Milites Gregarius | Neubaufahrzeug (NBFZ, also known as "Rheinmetall") is another example of bad tank. It is a huge monster, with 20mm http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/BeforeWWII/NBFZ/nbfz.gif Only 3 were made, and they actually broke down before they even saw combat. Sorry for the huge pic, it is the only good chart of NBFZ I could find. Mod:That was too big a pic, sorrey, I changed it to URL |
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| Milites Gregarius | i am going to bust the bubble here cuase from what i have heard, the M3 honey, while easy to drive * for it's time, you had to use two hands or one small sledge hammer to move levers and such* was a very very poor tank for use against anything, i have a book by a WWII Captain, the Captains names was Robert Crisp and the book he wrote was Brazen Chariots, he told accounts of the smaller German Panzer II's main gun *i believe a 50 mm, i could be wrong* made a "Complete Armor Penetration, Front to Rear of the M3 Stuart Light Tank" and i am sorry, but i vote for that being the worst tank for there time
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| Milites Gregarius | You are wrong about Pz-2. It had 20mm gun(automatic I think), it wasnt AP, so either you mean Pz-3(which had 37mm gun) or M-3 had the worst armor ever. And nothing to be sorry about, its your opinion. |
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| Milites Gregarius | the M3 Stuart had the worst armor .... the driver had a 2 foot hole to crawl through to get out, it made a good target, this dark hole in the front of the tank , i feel sorry for those drivers, and thanks, i knew that the Panzer II had a cannon, i was just unsure of what one |
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| Milforum Moderator ![]() | Panzer Mk2- 20mm KwK30/38.Some later versions had the 50mm KwK L60. Panzer Mk3- 37mm KwK35 L47, Later versions had 50mm KwK38 L42, and even 75mm KwK37 L24.... The M3 had really bad armour.... |
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| Milites Gregarius | yeah, cool, i never new the refitted the old MK II's in germany, but i am the guy who studies the Tiger's, P 1000's, Muas's and E-100's, so that lil struff would really by just a toy in my way seeing as how the M3 was less than half the tiger's weight and all the others were over 100 tons , so yeah, i don't like any light tanks, but i think the M3 deserves the spot light for being absolutely useless in protection , here is a quote on general bradley about the M3 Stuarts and M3 & White Halftracks Gen. Bradley"well soldier, do the machine guns penetrate the armor?" Solider " well no sir, they come in one side, and rattle around alot." i am sorry, but that would do two things piss me off/ kill me make me find a better tank or a new job |
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