Topic: Worst Current Issue Weapon(Rifle or Pistol)

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April 22nd, 2004   Post 1
USMC Johnny
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Post; Worst Current Issue Weapon(Rifle or Pistol)


What is the worst weapon(Rifle or Pistol)that is currently issued by any military in the world?


And.... What is the best weapon issued?
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April 22nd, 2004   Post 2
USMC Johnny
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Post; Worst Rifle


In my opionion(being a Marine, which we pride ourselfs on long distance shooting)

The M-16A2(.223 Cal Rifle) is the worst gun issued to the military, and the M4 is a close second(.223 sucks!)

M-16


M-4
 
April 22nd, 2004   Post 3
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Post; well


Well, why?
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April 22nd, 2004   Post 4
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The M-16A2 is not the best gun on the market today, but it is far from the worst. It is accurate out to 350 meters, works if you clean it, and does what it is supposed to do, win close firefights. If you're shooting long, use an M-14.

Also, if you want long range shooting, the M4 would be worse then the M-16.
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April 22nd, 2004   Post 5
Pogue
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M9 Beretta 9mm. I want the 1911 .45 back
 
April 22nd, 2004   Post 6
soilder79936
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well i think i have a worst maybe you guys do but if i ever goto war that weapon saves my life
 
April 23rd, 2004   Post 7
Dreadus
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FG42 is like, really, really awesome...
if i was in ww2 id want that.
if i was in modern times id want an mp5 for urban combat,
mg3 for defense,
and ak for medium range.
 
April 23rd, 2004   Post 8
SHERMAN
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Post; yes


Yes, but e are talking about the worst....
 
April 23rd, 2004   Post 9
Kozzy Mozzy
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The worst current issued assault rifle is probably the L85. It comes apart when you fire it, the safety breaks off, the magazine falls out. It may be accurate, but accurate don't mean **** if your gun is in peices.
 
April 23rd, 2004   Post 10
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Post; L85


The SA80 A1 family of weapons, of whish the L85 is one variant (there's also a Light Support Weapon variant and a new carbine version), was a quite bad rifle. I say quite bad because it was blown out of proportion by the press wanting to take a dig at our government. It is an accurate rifle, especially with the SUSAT optical sight. I've never heard of one falling apart when fired, but the problem with the magazine falling off was rectified very early on. However, it was very unreliable. This was mainly because it required a high level of maintenance, which was just unpractical on exercise never mind operations.

There was also a problem with the feed of blank ammunition, due to the fact that the blanks we use have a crimped tip. This coupled with the fact that the rifle required even more maintenance when firing blanks (they throw out a lot more carbon than ball), lead to the troops having little faith in it. And rightly so.

The SA80 A2 is the new version which has undergone extensive modification. It is now an extremely reliable weapon. The initial tests in Oman, Norway, Belize and UK put it among the best assault rifles as far as reliability goes. Once the stats of how it performed in Iraq filter through the army and eventually to the public, I believe it will become a very highly regarded weapon. The problem with the feed of blank ammunition has also been rectified with a new magazine specifically for blank rounds, which will give British soldiers confidence in the weapon.