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| Banned ![]() | Post; World owes US a debt, says BrownThe world owes a debt to the United States for its leadership in the fight against international terrorism, Gordon Brown has said. The prime minister described the link with the US as the UK's "most important bilateral relationship" ahead of his first talks with President George Bush. A foreign office minister had suggested the two countries would no longer be "joined at the hip" on foreign policy. Mr Brown arrived at Andrews air force base near Washington on Sunday night. International issues The talks at Camp David on Monday were expected to include Foreign Secretary David Milliband and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. They are expected to discuss international issues such as Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East, Darfur, Kosovo, world trade and climate change. Analysts will be looking for signs of the Brown regime distancing itself from the US during the trip. Private dinner BBC political editor Nick Robinson said Mr Brown was "walking a tightrope" in his dealings with America. He needed to reassure Mr Bush of his commitment to the Atlantic relationship as well as convince British voters that links between the US and the UK would be different to those maintained by former prime minister Tony Blair, our correspondent said. The prime minister was flying to Camp David for a private dinner with the president on Sunday night at his Maryland retreat. He will then head to Washington on Monday for cross-party talks with senate leaders and members of congress. Earlier this month, Foreign Office Minister Lord Malloch Brown said it was time for a more "impartial" foreign policy and for Britain to build relationships with European leaders. But en route to the US, Mr Brown described himself as an "Atlanticist and a great admirer of the American sprit". "As Prime Minister I want to do more to strengthen even further our relationship with the US," he said. "It is firmly in the British national interest that we have a strong relationship with the US, our single most important bilateral relationship." Mr Brown said the shared ideals of two centuries of history "have linked the destinies" of the two countries. He also quoted Winston Churchill - the first British prime minister to visit Camp David - who also spoke of a "joint inheritance". This close relationship would help in the fight against nuclear proliferation, global poverty, climate change and global terrorism, Mr Brown said. "And we should acknowledge the debt the world owes to the United States for its leadership in this fight against international terrorism," he added. Tony Blair enjoyed a close relationship with Mr Bush but there has been speculation that Mr Brown wants to keep his distance from the president. The shadow foreign secretary, William Hague, told the BBC the prime minister and foreign secretary needed to set a clear stance. He said: "They should not be leaving it to more junior ministers to create misunderstandings about the relationship with America, which is what has happened over the last few weeks. "Our approach, the approach David Cameron and I take, is that our relationship with America should be what we call solid but not slavish and it should gain frankness without losing its closeness." 'Candid friend' Liberal Democrat leader Menzies Campbell said three main issues should be discussed at the meeting. "Renegotiation of the one-sided extradition treaty, the closure of the Guantanamo Bay detention centre and a negotiated withdrawal of British forces from Iraq," he said. "These should be the objectives of a candid friend. The excessively subordinated relationship between the President and Mr Blair should be put to bed." Speaking in the US, International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander emphasised the need for "new alliances, based on common values". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6920877.stm |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | This should be interesting.
__________________ "The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." - John Steinbeck |
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| 100% Space Shuttle Door Gunner | I have a strange feeling about this new PM. It's not then good I'm about to get laid feeling either. But hey, he might be alright but more then likely we will just be another of the norm.
__________________ ![]() "Poor People have been voting for Democrats for the last 50 years... and they're still poor." - Charles Barkley |
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | He is doing what is in his countries best interest. Attacking Muslim nations when they do not pose a significant threat to the UK is not in Great Britan best interest.
__________________ "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack." -Foch I get this question a lot. I am from NYC. I fly a French flag because I work for the Paris Office of a International company. |
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| Immunes | With this remark, Mr. Brown has already lost most of his credit with the British people. We had all hoped there would at last be a change for the better, once Blair was gone. It seems the foreign policies which caused the terrorist attacks in the first place, are now likely to continue. |
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Freedom of religion Freedom of speech Human rights Secular laws | |
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| Fridgeraider (Instructor) | These people see democracy, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, human rights and secular laws as absolutely unacceptable behavior. The fact that we exist with these values and our presence itself gives these ideas out to the world is reason enough for them to wage war on us. Also, for a lot of these people, waging a war against the West is THE thing that keeps them in power. If there's no struggle against the infidels of the West, there is simply no need for them to be in power. It's a bit like hippies trying to turn every war into another "Vietnam" because their existence pretty much depends on it.
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arming the taliban to fight the soviets in afghanistan 50+ years of meddling in the middle east very broad strokes.....but very much a case of cause and effect | |
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