Originally Posted by Infern0

arming the taliban to fight the soviets in afghanistan
50+ years of meddling in the middle east


very broad strokes.....but very much a case of cause and effect

LMAO!

Typical leftist logic...

Originally Posted by bulldogg

Democracy
Freedom of religion
Freedom of speech
Human rights
Secular laws

Yep, they hate us for them.

Criticizing the US for arming various Afghan militias to fight the Soviets may be considered idiotic now but remember that it WAS the Cold War and the Soviets were the main problem and needed to be contained. Something we don't really seem to take seriously because it's a problem from the past. It really bothers me when people shirk at the thought of Hitler and the Nazis but yet seem to have this warm and fuzzy idea about the Soviet Union.
Sometimes you have to settle for the lesser of two evils.
And plus, how on earth do you ever know whether or not you'll be fighting them 15 years in the future??

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Criticizing the US for arming various Afghan militias to fight the Soviets may be considered idiotic now but remember that it WAS the Cold War and the Soviets were the main problem and needed to be contained. Something we don't really seem to take seriously because it's a problem from the past. It really bothers me when people shirk at the thought of Hitler and the Nazis but yet seem to have this warm and fuzzy idea about the Soviet Union.
Sometimes you have to settle for the lesser of two evils.
And plus, how on earth do you ever know whether or not you'll be fighting them 15 years in the future??

And going back to see who was the US president when Soviets invaded Afghanistan, only one name comes to mind: Jimmy Carter, the worst US president ever.

Many terrible stuff happened under his watch.... And we r still paying for his stupid miscalculations and naivete

Originally Posted by Infern0

arming the taliban to fight the soviets in afghanistan
50+ years of meddling in the middle east


very broad strokes.....but very much a case of cause and effect

Could you support your statement with some evidence(except of "very broad strokes")?

The Taliban has been born AFTER the Soviets left Afganistan(1986).
Then the American aid to all Afgan guerillas has stopped.

You could have said that the Americans did not prevent arming of the Taliban by the Pakistanis and the Saudis... this would be much closer to the truth... IMHO

Originally Posted by boris116

Could you support your statement with some evidence(except of "very broad strokes")?

The Taliban has been born AFTER the Soviets left Afganistan(1986).
Then the American aid to all Afgan guerillas has stopped.

You could have said that the Americans did not prevent arming of the Taliban by the Pakistanis and the Saudis... this would be much closer to the truth... IMHO

Indeed. The main support for Taliban came from Saudi Arabia and other arab sheikhdoms of the Gulf.

Originally Posted by boris116

Could you support your statement with some evidence(except of "very broad strokes")?

The Taliban has been born AFTER the Soviets left Afganistan(1986).
Then the American aid to all Afgan guerillas has stopped.

You could have said that the Americans did not prevent arming of the Taliban by the Pakistanis and the Saudis... this would be much closer to the truth... IMHO

fair call....arming the mujahadeen against the soviets, and a lot of that training and influence laid the groundwork for the taliban in later times.

sorry about inaccuracy of my statement....was only meant to be a very quick comment

Fast is good, but accuracy is final.

I think we all have turns at getting into these sort of situations.

Originally Posted by Infern0

fair call....arming the mujahadeen against the soviets, and a lot of that training and influence laid the groundwork for the taliban in later times.

sorry about inaccuracy of my statement....was only meant to be a very quick comment

Originally Posted by mmarsh

He is doing what is in his countries best interest. Attacking Muslim nations when they do not pose a significant threat to the UK is not in Great Britan best interest.

Please understand that Britain is under constant and increasing threat from Islamification, and foreign interests openly threaten us on a daily basis. Only this week we had another primitive Imam telling us, amongst other putrifications, that his attitude to beheading victims was ' Why on earth should we not slaughter Americans.' Why is there such an insistence on denial that the west are the victim targets of this developing ideology.


Command the future, conquer the past.