Will there be war between US and Russia in the future?

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:m16shoot:Do you think there could be war between the US and Russia in the future?

Cold War may be over for now... but there's still a lot of distrust between them.

Who is on the upper hand should there be such a conflict?

and will it be near in the future after Putin is gone?

:9mm:
 
Do you think there could be war between the US and Russia in the future?

No, not likely, as it is in neither nations interests, at the present time, and it would be costly, on both sides..... and perhaps go Nuclear very quickly.
Russia would have to attack first in my own opinion.

Cold War may be over for now... but there's still a lot of distrust between them.

The Military Industrial Complex in the United States needs Enemies, and a lot of them to stay in business at current levels.

Who is on the upper hand should there be such a conflict?

We do, as far as I'm concerned. Russia has more Countries right around Russia who do not like Russia than we have right around us who do not like us, and we would use such to our advantage.

and will it be near in the future after Putin is gone?

I don't see much wrong with Putin, well, as long as he leaves once his term is up, and the Elections in Russia are fair.
I'd guess it would depend on who takes over Russia once he is out of power as to if Russia makes the first move.
 
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:m16shoot:Do you think there could be war between the US and Russia in the future?

Cold War may be over for now... but there's still a lot of distrust between them.

Who is on the upper hand should there be such a conflict?

and will it be near in the future after Putin is gone?

:9mm:

how does one country could go to war with her best customer?
As long as Russia lives off a sale of her natural resources to the West, it can't go to War with the West...
 
Only time can tell if such a war would break out. Odds are, as stated above, direct conflict would not happen easily. However, there are things missed by most people, particularly then tension betweeb the US and Russia over the Republic of Georgia and three states north of Tblisi. Also, the US is the ONLY nation blocking Russia from investing in EU energy companies, a fact that only slows Russias economic progression.

One other thing, Regional ties should never be forgotten on a battlefield. Russia and China, although different, still work together on some issues, like this joint military operation. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4161660.stm Not to mention Indias cooperation with both Russia and China. Neither one of these countries will let the US annhilate a supporter, customer, supplier, etc. without some kind of conflict. Although IMO they will not directly help, but instead funnel money and supplies into the country much like Iran does with Iraq currently.
 
Who cares about a war between Russia and the United States? In fact, who cares about a war between the United States and the rest of the world? The American Air Force alone has the power to eliminate all potential enemies -- tactically in terms of military forces and strategically in terms of infrastructure. After that, the bombers can make the rubble bounce.
 
Who cares about a war between Russia and the United States? In fact, who cares about a war between the United States and the rest of the world? The American Air Force alone has the power to eliminate all potential enemies -- tactically in terms of military forces and strategically in terms of infrastructure. After that, the bombers can make the rubble bounce.

But how is the US going to win the political war afterwards? :shock:
 
what if Russia makes the first strike?

to start a war, it just takes a few top men running the nation to move the country to go to war...

when they start a war, it is not logical or even predictable to analysts why they do that,
but the reason to attack is always perfectly sane and acceptable to the war starters themselves.
 
a war between the US and Russia just isn't practical for either side, whether it be now or sometime in the future. there's the possiblity of it going nuclear, and lord know's that the rest of the world doesn't want that.
 
Jesus Christ. "Who cares about a war?"

How about the people who will die in it, or lose their family members to it? And the corporations making billions off of them.

A war with Russia would be even worse, because there's a great chance of it going nuclear and resetting the planet Earth.
 
While Putin is in power another cold war could come about
No way!

It doesn't matter, who is in power!!!!

As long as Russia sells her natural resources to the West, it CAN'T BE a threat to the WEST!

All Russia's elite lives off this trade - why they are going to kill it?

They can't use the surplus of money within the country - in fear of inflation.
So the Russian Government has created the "Stabilisation Fund" to put the oil/gas profits there.
Where these money are invested?
Into American securities...

In the same time, they would like to make anti-Western noises to make the Russian population feel surrounded, threatened...

Recently, I have seen a Russian advertisement for the Russian Armed Forces(it was not aired, though - too straightforward, I think).
It has squarely stated: "If you don't want Russia to become the next Iraq - join the Russian Army!"

However, each Russian oil barrel sold to the West, enriches West more than Russian people...
I am not talking about Russian elite here - they have got their cut already and are not going to stop this practice...
 
How do you define 'war' anyway? If you follow Clausewitz who said, "war is an expression of politics", then wars need not necessarily be ones of military conflict. As far as Russia and America go there can't be another cold war because the conditions that existed when the Cold War started no longer apply. Putin also has his hands very full with the potential breakaways of many of the former Soviet republics who now might desire independence and with religious fundamentalism on his doorstep. The last thing on his mind is any conflict with the US.

I can confidently state that, unless the ideologies of Russia and America become polarized again as they were in the 1940s, there will not be any military conflict between them in my lifetime.
 
How do you define 'war' anyway? If you follow Clausewitz who said, "war is an expression of politics", then wars need not necessarily be ones of military conflict. As far as Russia and America go there can't be another cold war because the conditions that existed when the Cold War started no longer apply. Putin also has his hands very full with the potential breakaways of many of the former Soviet republics who now might desire independence and with religious fundamentalism on his doorstep. The last thing on his mind is any conflict with the US.
Where you have been?
The former Soviet republics have become independent 15 years ago:)

You are, probably, talking about the former Autonomous republics(like Chechnya, Tatarstan, etc.)

I can confidently state that, unless the ideologies of Russia and America become polarized again as they were in the 1940s, there will not be any military conflict between them in my lifetime.
I agree
 
Where you have been?
The former Soviet republics have become independent 15 years ago:)

You are, probably, talking about the former Autonomous republics(like Chechnya, Tatarstan, etc.)
Yes I am. Russia occupies a huge swathe of territory with many regions having very little in common with each in terms of culture or religion. I think it's going to become increasingly difficult for Russia to keep a grip on this diverse 'empire' of theirs. This might be one reason why Russia has not fully embraced a modern multi-party federal democracy.
 
How do you define 'war' anyway? If you follow Clausewitz who said, "war is an expression of politics", then wars need not necessarily be ones of military conflict. As far as Russia and America go there can't be another cold war because the conditions that existed when the Cold War started no longer apply. Putin also has his hands very full with the potential breakaways of many of the former Soviet republics who now might desire independence and with religious fundamentalism on his doorstep. The last thing on his mind is any conflict with the US.

I can confidently state that, unless the ideologies of Russia and America become polarized again as they were in the 1940s, there will not be any military conflict between them in my lifetime.

Hey D., think of it this way: oil is the dominant question. The breakaway states either have oil reserves of their own, or are strategically positioned in terms of pipelines. It will all turn on Chinese-American competition for the allegiance of these states. And, it looks like the Chinese are winning. The Chinese offer the oil nations housing, specialists, technology, etc. The Americans only buy off the elite...typical for a totally corrupt state that cares nothing about its own people and is willing to defraud the masses using methods typical of Manchester Capitalism. Anyone looking at the current economic crisis knows that the US is going down the toilet...sad, but true. What happens next?

My advice: stop thinking about Russia. They are now only a pawn in the big oil game. Putin, to his credit, knows this. China is the unknown variable. Historically, they have been too absorbed by their notions of China as centre of the world. But, the US -- with their illusions of global hegemony based exclusively on the incredible military power that they have created -- is a real danger. When will the US "freak out" and start a really dangerous "breakout" phase? Probably when they realize that their elitist foreign policy is alienating the entire global community. Washington has already started military campaigns to control the centres of global oil or the strategic regions. Will China sit back and permit blatant American coercion? Probably not. Here comes WWIII.
 
All this **** happens because of oil, and yet there will be none left before the end of my lifetime. They better have a hydrogen infrastructure up and ready to go by then, or it's going to be a loooong winter. Seriously, if the next ice age hits around the same time as the oil runs out, bye-bye most of humanity.
 
Is this thread not dead yet? I would rather ask when the current war is going to end before asking when the next war will start...
 
No,War between USA and Russia will hardly happen in the future,I think.
Because,President Putin thinks war against strong enemy is too much expensive.
But sametime,He thinks war between USA and China (or North korea or Iran?even cuba or venezuela?)is needed as war between UK and Germany to spent power of USA and restore greater russia again.
So,Russia sells weapons whoever with money on the earth is natural.(especially china,yes!China is the best customer of russian weapons!Thanks to tax payers of china!)
 
Could there be a future war between Russia and the USA? Incredibly unlikely. The same thing that kept us from war in the Cold War era has not changed: Mutually Assured Destruction. So any scenario involving war between the USA and Russia would be:
1.) Ends in Nuclear Holocaust and humankind all die.
2.) Some miracle breakthrough or advance in technology somehow makes nukes 100% ineffective. (Otherwise, both parties potentially just creat new ways to launch a nuclear attack on each other.)
3.) A very limitted conflict in a very isolated area.

Now one does have to acknowledge that Russia feels a lot like Germany did post World War 1. The big difference is that the USA did not directly intervene to cause the collapse of the USSR (the glory days of Russia as some might view it), and Russia's continued problems are not being perpetuated by the USA and Western Powers.

Those facts can become moot if a charismatic leader (similar to Hitler) comes along and places the blame for all of Russia's problems on the West and the USA. People are always more willing to believe that they were wronged by a third party than to bother to fix their own problems that were self-created. However, for any such leader to be successful ... for them to make Russia any threat at all ... they'd have to kick Russia's economy in the arse and get it rocking and rolling to unprecedented levels. This seems unlikely to happen. The general mood in Russia is certainly ideal for a Napoleon, Caesar or Hitler to come to power though.
 
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