A muslim that killed your sister, you cant hate that muslim? I said the emphasis on some because i meant it. I didnt say anyone hated all muslims, nor did i say anyone hated any muslims at all.I said that there was a possibility.Maybe no one hates or even dislikes muslims...Maybe everyone here would jump in front of a bullet for a muslim...I dont know, but I would have a strong dislike for someone blowing my leg off...Now, maybe no one else is flipping out about it, but neither am I. I am merely calling you on a mistake you made. If I was flipping out, I would be banned indefinitely by now...Im not looking for an argument. If I was, I'd head down to the local pub and fight a drunk guy who couldn't stand straight...Call it misplaced agression, but thats what Id do.You think I should chill out because Im picking on the new guy. You are wrong. I am merely telling you that you need to watch who you call racist. K?

I stated what I stated. And I'm not going to retract it until I see less threads about how much people want a 'large islamic empire' to invade Europe and whatnot. It's just that I felt a lot of antimosity towards Muslims from the threads that my friend had showed me. Maybe I didn't look around enough. Maybe I looked at the perfect spot.

That's why I'm sticking around to see for myself. But, from what I have seen so far. There are a good amount of people like Gladius. Or at least a few followers of his ideals.

Oh and, why is it religion is such a hot topic here?

Could you show me the threads? And I'll show you threads that contradict them or what they say.I couldn't tell you why its so hot...Perhaps its because people feel so strongly about their particular religions.

I don't know exactly which forum it is in. But it was one about a 'large muslim unification' etc. And how the Muslims are going to 'strike first' and 'hit hard'. I'm sure Deerslayer (Buddy who showed me hte thread awhile ago) could link us up here. I'll PM him to do that.

Easy, Radwan, let's keep the debate civil and impersonal.

Personally, hell has to freeze over for Israel and America to fight alongside each other. The world reaction would be absolutely insane, and we would probably expect increased antiwestern activity simply because of the mere idea of the alliance.

Sounds good. Erm, were the terrorists who attacked the WTC towers muslim?

They proclaimed themselves muslims. But were following the ways of Osama Bin Laden. Which of whom has taken the Quran and changed the verses to mean other things so that HE can benefit from them. He uses these altered verses to teach to his followers so that they can see his crazed views and actually believe them. These types are whom the media mistakes with true Muslims sadly.

They proclaimed themselves muslims. But were following the ways of Osama Bin Laden. Which of whom has taken the Quran and changed the verses to mean other things so that HE can benefit from them. He uses these altered verses to teach to his followers so that they can see his crazed views and actually believe them. These types are whom the media mistakes with true Muslims sadly.

What do you consider altered, many passages Quran are quite violent and have been moderated by time just as things in the bible have been. Is it not possible he is simply teaching from the orginal passages.

Hrm... I don't really know any ACTUAL examples since I haven't gotten my hands on one of their altered versions before.


But it's along the lines of... Let's say I write a sentence right. I say, "He sells sea shells by the sea shore."

Well, someone else might come along and rephrase it to say. "He sells rocks by the riverside." Ya get it? It's like, changed. But not completely.

My example is crappy, I know.

Originally Posted by Rabs

What do you consider altered, many passages Quran are quite violent and have been moderated by time just as things in the bible have been. Is it not possible he is simply teaching from the orginal passages.

Heh therein lies the problem: our interpretation of holy texts whether it be the Bible, Quran, Torah, etc. Osama bin Laden and his like interpret it a different way than moderate Muslims do. Just like how some Christian denominations interpret the Bible a different way than other Christians do. If I had to use an analogy to describe a Christian version of Muslim extremists, I'd say that would be the Westboro Baptist Christians. These guys make me ashamed to be a Christian (well Catholic actually).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_baptist