About WILL GERMANY RISE AGAIN: FOURTH REICH? Page 7
|October 23rd, 2010||#61|
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the french? they are like a gentleman riding a powerful horse (Germany) but they have just been thrown and the horse is headed to Berlin!
Germany is the most powerful and influentiol nation on EARTH. instead of poo-pooing the idea, try researching the prospect while considering the posability of it's being true. they are in a battle for supremecy with China for dominance in export. they are calling all the shots within E.U. politics. they are the undisputed leaders of the largest trading bloc in the world and people still see them as a defeated nation.
again I say... Wake up!~
|October 26th, 2010||#63|
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I, actually, think that if there will be a Third Reich, it will, ironically, be in Russia of all places.
Let us compare.
Germany, 1920s, poverty, economic crisis, disillusionment and demoralisation of the population. Just lost WWI, and the Entente is rubbing it in their face, with the Treat of Versailles, and all that.
Russia, 1990s, poverty, economic crisis, disillusionment and demoralisation of the population. Just lost the Cold War, and the West is rubbing it in their face, with NATO expansion in former USSR, etc.
Germany, 1930s: popular, charismatic, nationalistic leader comes along: Adolf Hitler.
Russia, 2000s: popular, charismatic, nationalistic leader comes along: Vladimir Putin.
1938: Germany invades Sudetenland and takes it from Czechoslovakia, on pretext that Germans are majority of population there, and have been facing persecution from that government.
2008: Russia invades Georgia and takes from them South Ossetia and Abkhazia, arguing that majority of population there are Russian-citizens, and were being mistreated by the Georgian authorities.
Am I really the only to NOT see a pattern forming here? Really?
|October 26th, 2010||#64|
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No body fears Russia, we just have to bomb their Vodka production facilities, and then... Game over. Finished.
No, seriously, I see the patern, but the Germans are not like the Russians.
|October 26th, 2010||#65|
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|October 26th, 2010||#66|
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Surrendering is a very hard discipline, even an art.
Takes a lot of skills to make white flags out of black sheets in less than 2minutes...
Show some respect. You Americans fight for years and lose wars... Saves a lot of time and resources to surrender fast. And then you can enjoy more cheese and wine and of course, fine and sweet lingerie...
|October 26th, 2010||#67|
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I think we will see germany rise again, but this time on a completely different positive way.
German chancellor Angela Merkel have said that the fate of the euro is the fate of Europe, and that the economic crisis facing the Europe today is an opportunity to fix the underlying problems that have brought the Continent to the brink of economic collapse. This support for the eurozone from Germany’s top political echelon may seem confusing considering the past foot-dragging from Berlin on the Greek bailout with nearly threw the world into another September 2008-like crisis, with both the United States and Japan urging Berlin to act. However, despite the fact that Germany needs Europe to remain relevant as a global player, as well as for its own economic benefit, the crisis had another dimension: domestic politics. Merkel hoped to win a key state election for her governing coalition on May 9, and acting tough on Greece — by talking about potentially kicking Athens out of the eurozone — had its own domestic logic. Investors took the tough talk on Greece as a sign of Berlin’s wavering support and punished Athens.
Germany now senses the opportunity to reform the eurozone so that similar crises do not happen again. This will likely mean entrenching the European Central Bank’s ability to intervene in government debt as a long-term solution to Europe’s mounting fiscal problems. It will also mean establishing German-designed European institutions capable of monitoring national budgets and punishing profligate spenders in the future. Whether these institutions will work in the long term or fail as attempts to enforce Europe’s rules on deficit levels and government debt have in the past remains to be seen. But from Germany’s perspective, they must.
Germany’s attempts to rationalize and consolidate Europe after the sovereign debt crisis in the immediate to midterm will be the focus of European politics. However, the underlying geopolitical trend is Germany’s return to a status of a country pursuing its interests unfettered by institutions designed to limit its power. Germany is no longer bound by the Cold War, nor by the immediacy of reintegrating East Germany, as it was in the 1990s.
Germany is not only unfettered, it is also facing a Europe no longer held together by the opposing forces of the Cold War. Without the Cold War to provide the geopolitical impetus for European unity, the European Union now becomes a thoroughly German-led project.
And that project will have to deal with a number of other geopolitical trends unraveling around it. These trends include the Russian resurgence in Central and Eastern Europe, NATO’s increasing tensions, the United States’ eventual move to counter Russia’s resurgence, Central European security fears of a resurgent Russia, a French realization that Paris is no longer equal to Berlin, and Europe’s underlying demographic and debt problems. How Europe faces these developing trends will now depend more than ever on how Germany faces them. As Germany consolidates the euro bloc — which is essentially its “sphere of influence” — and entrenches its leadership inside the eurozone, it will also have to establish its leadership of the eurozone in international matters.
It is still too early to tell but we can answer one question, the proverbial American question of where to call when one needs to talk to Europe. It should be pretty obvious that the phone call begins with + 49 30.
|October 26th, 2010||#68|
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Since I now have started to tease you, here is a document I found.
Juste pour le plaisir.
Thor has a hammer; Jesus was nailed to a cross, any questions?
|October 26th, 2010||#69|
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I think, whole thread is about "cocking about" and paranoia.. Reich's etc- dynamics of world ruling changed so much- is not possible!
Aggression of one or other nation/country yes! is and will be occasional spout here and there, deliberate "misunderstandings" will be conflicts reason, but any one nation attempting to be "ruler"- never again!
|October 26th, 2010||#70|
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This is how bad freedom of speech and saying nationalistic ideals is in Germany SMH "Deutschland uber alles" normally the name used to refer to the German National anthem. The lyrics were written in mid 19 century and have nothing to do with the Nazi regime.
Chile's Pinera apologizes to Germany for slogan
SANTIAGO, Chile – Chile's president is apologizing for writing a slogan associated with Nazi Germany in a government guest book during a visit to Berlin.
The phrase Sebastian Pinera wrote was "Deutschland uber alles," or "Germany above all." It became infamous under the Third Reich and after World War II was excised from Germany's national anthem as too nationalistic.
Pinera says he learned the slogan in school during the 1950s and '60s and understood it to be a celebration of German unification under Otto von Bismarck.
He adds that he was unaware it was "linked to that country's dark past."
Pinera said Monday he's sorry, and asked to be forgiven.
Pinera's tour of Britain, France and Germany wrapped up Saturday.