About WILL GERMANY RISE AGAIN: FOURTH REICH? Page 3
|July 23rd, 2004||#25|
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Like some people already said, I don't think there is the slightest chance of a "fourth reich" because of our current political system as well as influence from our neighbouring countries.
|July 23rd, 2004||#26|
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Would you please be more precisely?
Of course there exist Nazi organisations, also in Germany, but they have a hard life here. All Nazi symbols are forbidden, and if you carry, or even own one, you can be punished. Every organisation, that is proven to be nationalistic, will be forbidden.
I think in the US it is by far easier to found such organisations.
|July 25th, 2004||#28|
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Dictionary.com defines "reich" as:
"The territory or government of a German state, as the Holy Roman Empire, or First Reich, from the ninth century to 1806; the German Empire, or Second Reich, from 1871 to 1919; the Weimar Republic, from 1919 to 1933; or the Third Reich, from 1933 to 1945."
Unless I am completely wrong in my interpretation of history, the only one of those associated with Nazism was the Third Reich, which lasted only 12 years.
I know that the Neo-Nazi movement keeps agitating for the establishment of a "Fourth Reich", but I don't see that happening.
In my opinion, my original reply remains valid. If history records the existance of a Fourth Reich, it is likely to be referring to something that will have been established after our lifetimes. It will take time for the memories to fade, but eventually Germany under Nazism will be relegated to the same dusty history books as Russia under Ivan the Terrible or the Roman Empire under Caligula...it just won't matter anymore.
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|July 25th, 2004||#29|
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so,,,anybody want to put money on the establishment of another german reich?
as apposed to a chinese empire?
as opposed to a roman empire?
as opposed to a japanese co-prosperity sphere?
as opposed to making the world safe for a democracy?
seems like the terms are different...
BTW...would an economic empire count as well? The saudis could buy and sell most nations...if the price was right. Or if the market was right. You have to remember, the cold war with the soviet union ended up as an economic battle...look who won that.
“If we should have to fight, we should be prepared to do so from the neck up instead of from the neck down.”— General James H. Doolittle, USAAF
|July 25th, 2004||#30|
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I don't know about a New Roman Empire, although I can see the establishment of a Fourth Reich with the creation of a New Holy Roman Empire. Not with the current political climate, of course...but the possibility is there.
I can also see a Japanese Co-Prosperity Sphere, although I think it would be more economic in nature than military.
As for a renewed Chinese Empire...no really. Too much has changed in the world political climate for such to be established again short of a massive world war that reduces civilization back to near-barbarism.
As a side note, though...when the Soviet Union collapsed and the former Republics were scrambling around trying to decide on how to set up a government, there was a faction that seriously considered inviting the current heir to the Romanov throne (living in Monaco at the time, I believe) to reclaim the crown as Czar. Nothing came of it, of course...but had it happened, Russia could have become a Constitutional Monarchy like England.
So I guess anything is possible.