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December 22nd, 2007   Post 91
SHERMAN
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Just dont sell the bugger to the egyptians...
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December 22nd, 2007   Post 92
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Just dont sell the bugger to the egyptians...
I do not think the IDF has to worry about that, they are already upset that we will only give them some of the M1A2 electronic upgrades versus the whole setup. Also they wanted to upgrade their Tungsten penetrator rounds to what we are giving Australia and we gave them a big NYET on that also, they will continue to use the older version of that round.
 
January 5th, 2008   Post 93
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I'll take the Canadian Army as an example: At first, we only had troops over there (Afghanistan). Then, we wanted a something that would really make the war VERY unfair. The something was: Leopards C2! It was pretty much something to set us apart from the enemy who relied only on Guerrila Infantry (apart from IEDs, damn IEDs...). If your enemy doesn't have tanks, get some and watch them struggle to take them out. If your enemy has them, get better ones (it was either the first or second Gulph War where the American's destroyed all of Sadam's petty Russian tanks without loosing one).

Tanks are useful in urban combat situations believe it or not. If you look at videos on Youtube, pesky insurgent snipers in Iraq have been made short work of with the Abrams' Cannon. The ability of laying down a very large amount of firepower (one you would find on an Abrams' tank: .50 cal, 7.62, and another 7.62 co-axial) will very easily turn the tide of battle.

Tanks in an open environment? Even better.
 
January 5th, 2008   Post 94
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I'll take the Canadian Army as an example: At first, we only had troops over there (Afghanistan). Then, we wanted a something that would really make the war VERY unfair. The something was: Leopards C2! It was pretty much something to set us apart from the enemy who relied only on Guerrila Infantry (apart from IEDs, damn IEDs...). If your enemy doesn't have tanks, get some and watch them struggle to take them out. If your enemy has them, get better ones (it was either the first or second Gulph War where the American's destroyed all of Sadam's petty Russian tanks without loosing one).

Tanks are useful in urban combat situations believe it or not. If you look at videos on Youtube, pesky insurgent snipers in Iraq have been made short work of with the Abrams' Cannon. The ability of laying down a very large amount of firepower (one you would find on an Abrams' tank: .50 cal, 7.62, and another 7.62 co-axial) will very easily turn the tide of battle.

Tanks in an open environment? Even better.
You are looking at two different theater of operations where tanks are being used, tanks are not having to fight in urban environments in Afghanistan and no they are not the perfect answer for every encounter in Iraq either regardless of what you are watching on the tube.
 




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