WHY WE WENT INTO IRAQ!!

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Why We Went to Iraq
By FOUAD AJAMI
June 4, 2008

Of all that has been written about the play of things in Iraq, nothing that I have seen approximates the truth of what our ambassador to Baghdad, Ryan Crocker, recently said of this war: "In the end, how we leave and what we leave behind will be more important than how we came."

It is odd, then, that critics have launched a new attack on the origins of the war at precisely the time a new order in Iraq is taking hold. But American liberal opinion is obsessive today. Scott McClellan can't be accused of strategic thinking, but he has been anointed a peer of Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft. A witness and a presumed insider – a "Texas loyalist" – has "flipped."
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Iraqi Army soldiers secure Basra, April 2008.

Mr. McClellan wades into the deep question of whether this war was a war of "necessity" or a war of "choice." He does so in the sixth year of the war, at a time when many have forgotten what was thought and said before its onset. The nation was gripped by legitimate concern over gathering dangers in the aftermath of 9/11. Kabul and the war against the Taliban had not sufficed, for those were Arabs who struck America on 9/11. A war of deterrence had to be waged against Arab radicalism, and Saddam Hussein had drawn the short straw. He had not ducked, he had not scurried for cover. He openly mocked America's grief, taunted its power.

We don't need to overwork the stereotype that Arabs understand and respond to the logic of force, but this is a region sensitive to the wind, and to the will of outside powers. Before America struck into Iraq, a mere 18 months after 9/11, there had been glee in the Arab world, a sense that America had gotten its comeuppance. There were regimes hunkering down, feigning friendship with America while aiding and abetting the forces of terror.

Liberal opinion in America and Europe may have scoffed when President Bush drew a strict moral line between order and radicalism – he even inserted into the political vocabulary the unfashionable notion of evil – but this sort of clarity is in the nature of things in that Greater Middle East. It is in categories of good and evil that men and women in those lands describe their world. The unyielding campaign waged by this president made a deep impression on them.

Nowadays, we hear many who have never had a kind word to say about the Iraq War pronounce on the retreat of the jihadists. It is as though the Islamists had gone back to their texts and returned with second thoughts about their violent utopia. It is as though the financiers and the "charities" that aided the terror had reconsidered their loyalties and opted out of that sly, cynical trade. Nothing could be further from the truth. If Islamism is on the ropes, if the regimes in the saddle in key Arab states now show greater resolve in taking on the forces of radicalism, no small credit ought to be given to this American project in Iraq.

We should give the "theorists" of terror their due and read them with some discernment. To a man, they have told us that they have been bloodied in Iraq, that they have been surprised by the stoicism of the Americans, by the staying power of the Bush administration.

There is no way of convincing a certain segment of opinion that there are indeed wars of "necessity." A case can always be made that an aggressor ought to be given what he seeks, that the costs of war are prohibitively high when measured against the murky ways of peace and of daily life.

"Wars are not self-starting," the noted philosopher Michael Walzer wrote in his seminal book, "Just and Unjust Wars." "They may 'break out,' like an accidental fire, under conditions difficult to analyze and where the attribution of responsibility seems impossible. But usually they are more like arson than accident: war has human agents as well as human victims."

Fair enough. In the narrow sense of command and power, this war in Iraq is Mr. Bush's war. But it is an evasion of responsibility to leave this war at his doorstep. This was a war fought with congressional authorization, with the warrant of popular acceptance, and the sanction of United Nations resolutions which called for Iraq's disarmament. It is the political good fortune (in the world of Democratic Party activists) that Sen. Barack Obama was spared the burden of a vote in the United States Senate to authorize the war. By his telling, he would have us believe that he would have cast a vote against it. But there is no sure way of knowing whether he would have stood up to the wind.

With the luxury of hindsight, the critics of the war now depict the arguments made for it as a case of manipulation and deceit. This is odd and misplaced: The claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were to prove incorrect, but they were made in good faith.

It is also obtuse and willful to depict in dark colors the effort made to "sell" the war. Wars can't be waged in stealth, and making the moral case for them is an obligation incumbent on the leaders who launch them. If anything, there were stretches of time, and critical turning points, when the administration abdicated the fight for public opinion.

Nor is there anything unprecedented, or particularly dishonest, about the way the rationale for the war shifted when the hunt for weapons of mass destruction had run aground. True, the goal of a democratic Iraq – and the broader agenda of the war as a spearhead of "reform" in Arab and Muslim lands – emerged a year or so after the onset of the war. But the aims of practically every war always shift with the course of combat, and with historical circumstances. Need we recall that the abolition of slavery had not been an "original" war aim, and that the Emancipation Proclamation was, by Lincoln's own admission, a product of circumstances? A war for the Union had become a victory for abolitionism.

America had not been prepared for nation-building in Iraq; we had not known Iraq and Iraqis or understood the depth of Iraq's breakdown. But there was nothing so startling or unusual about the connection George W. Bush made between American security and the "reform" of the Arab condition. As America's pact with the Arab autocrats had hatched a monster, it was logical and prudent to look for a new way.

"When a calf falls, a thousand knives flash," goes an Arabic proverb. The authority of this administration is ebbing away, the war in Iraq is unloved, and even the "loyalists" now see these years of panic and peril as a time of exaggerated fear.

It is not easy to tell people of threats and dangers they have been spared. The war put on notice regimes and conspirators who had harbored dark thoughts about America and who, in the course of the 1990s, were led to believe that terrible deeds against America would go unpunished. A different lesson was taught in Iraq. Nowadays, the burden of the war, in blood and treasure, is easy to see, while the gains, subtle and real, are harder to demonstrate. Last month, American casualties in Iraq were at their lowest since 2003. The Sunnis also have broken with al Qaeda, and the Shiite-led government has taken the war to the Mahdi Army: Is it any wonder that the critics have returned to the origins of the war?

Five months from now, the American public will vote on this war, in the most dramatic and definitive of ways. There will be people who heed Ambassador Crocker's admonition. And there will be others keen on retelling how we made our way to Iraq.

Mr. Ajami, a Bradley Prize recipient, teaches at the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University. He is the author of "The Foreigner's Gift" (Free Press, 2006).

Finally someone who gets it...WSJ editorial
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I have to say I agree with this post. Sadaam did nothing to avoid this war.
It would seem that many at home are becoming concerned that it may be turning in out favour, which means in the world's favour.

The threat that by November 2008 , a new President is on a promise to pull out can only boost the morale of our enemies and refresh their activities, bringing about a surge of their own at the cost of American lives. Very much against America's interests, and self-inflicted.

This is a time when strength of will is required to let the enemy in Iraq know that they have no chance.

Psychological battle - wake-up call required.
 
Not only our enemies in Iraq, but also and some may say more importantly, our enemies in Iran, Syria and the under cover ones in China, Russia and even here in the USA and our other allied countries.

By the way, I was in the first Gulf War, I know Hussein had WMD's and I/we saw some. Their was quite a bit of time in between the end of the frist Gulf War and the invasion in 2003. Hussein most likely used this time to move those WMD's, probably to Iran, Syria, maybe China, Russia, North Korea and maybe even others as well.
 
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Popular acceptance? No one I've ever seen or talked to has been for the Iraq war, in real life anyways.

I think it's hilarious that this guy actually believes terrorists have been hampered by our actions in Iraq. Sure a lot of insurgents have been killed, and some of them were foreign fundamentalists. But a lot of them were just pissed off Iraqis, just as I'd be pissed off if a foreign country tried to "liberate" me in my own nation. In fact killing them bolsters their recruitment and only earns us additional resentment.
 
Not only our enemies in Iraq, but also and some may say more importantly, our enemies in Iran, Syria and the under cover ones in China, Russia and even here in the USA and our other allied countries.

By the way, I was in the first Gulf War, I know Hussein had WMD's and I/we saw some. Their was quite a bit of time in between the end of the frist Gulf War and the invasion in 2003. Hussein most likely used this time to move those WMD's, probably to Iran, Syria, maybe China, Russia, North Korea and maybe even others as well.

I included the afore-named enemies of the west in the Middle East and points east, and I have never fully swallowed the 'no WMD 'story. Why did Hussain risk all in defiance of the UN and in the face America's challenge to conform. And why did did the Weapons Inspectors, given all the time they needed, fail to come down off the fence and confirm No WMD - until their retrospection that is!
It jus' don't make sense. I reckon this is still to unfold; a very long game is being played out and Geo. Bush drew the short straw and thereby the poisoned chalice. Could he have played it differently? The next man may face more of the same, so I hope they stay as strong as they talk. At least Geo W did that. He took the fight to them; to their arena. And it was over in days - what a pity that the post-war campaign was a complete **** up for so long. How that happened in the face of History is unfathomable.

As for America being more at risk now, how many more examples of Sep 11 would you have needed to face up to the threat?
Never, never pay the Dane-Geld if you want to survive free and clear. And against these guys, weakness is the greatest weakness!

And of course no-one is for war; everybody on this side of humanity hates war. Nevertheless, some things become unacceptable.
 
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I think President Bush made a mistake that his Pop did not. Sen. McCain picked up on this. When I was in Gulf War I, under President Bush Sr, we went in with 600,00 strong. Current President Bush had less than 200,000. This was the major mistake made in the first four years in my opinion. I would put a good portion of folks on the border, especially Syria and Iran to keep them coming over becuase I think that is the major place the terrorists are coming from. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if later we find out Bin Laden is hiding in Syria or Iran.
The Second mistake about the war in my opinion, I feel that is now and was then, Iran is/was more of a threat to us than Iraq ever was and I think we should have invaded Iran first to make the war on terror more productive.
 
I have never fully swallowed the 'no WMD 'story. Why did Hussain risk all in defiance of the UN and in the face America's challenge to conform.

Middle eastern Machismo and ill gotten pride.

Unfortunately, like the idiot who when faced with a brawl says, "Im a black belt in whatever" he found out that his attempted scare tactics backfired. The other bloke was a Grandmaster.

If he did have access to WMD, why didn't he use them to save his and his country's neck? He had no reservations in using gas on his rebellious Kurds. I think that this made the world realise that this Idiot was going to use whatever he could get his hands on, and no more WMD, or help in manufacturing them were forthcoming.

Naah,... the WMDs were only in the minds of the NeoCons.
 
Middle eastern Machismo and ill gotten pride.

Unfortunately, like the idiot who when faced with a brawl says, "Im a black belt in whatever" he found out that his attempted scare tactics backfired. The other bloke was a Grandmaster.

If he did have access to WMD, why didn't he use them to save his and his country's neck? He had no reservations in using gas on his rebellious Kurds. I think that this made the world realise that this Idiot was going to use whatever he could get his hands on, and no more WMD, or help in manufacturing them were forthcoming.

Naah,... the WMDs were only in the minds of the NeoCons.

Well, it would be good to think you may be right. But he was offered various ways out, including going on his way as a rich champion of his culture. I agree regarding the Machismo but I always thought be was a master of brinkmanship and would play the trump card. I still find it hard to understand how easily he went. Maybe it points to the disastrous result of twisting the wrong lion's tail.

My worst scenario is - where did it go if it went, has it contributed to Syria or Iran? On the other hand, I guess you could hide almost anything in Iraq, given enough time.

Recognising the man that we saw, the most believable excuse for his suicidal refusal to back down that I have heard is that he wished to persuade Iran that he did have WMD, whether he did or not. Perhaps.

I just can't persuade myself that we have heard the last of this one.

One thing for sure - he warned that if we came the sand would burn beneath our feet - and it certainly did.
 
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I think Saddam wanted his neighbors to think he had WMD and he didn't think we'd actually invade. I know if I was surrounded by the kinds of countries Iraq is, I'd want them to fear me.
 
I agree regarding the Machismo but I always thought be was a master of brinkmanship and would play the trump card. I still find it hard to understand how easily he went.
I think the problem here was that Saddam also thought that he was a the master of brinkmanship, unfortunately all his bluster got him was a smack in the chops.

He found out what it is to be no more than "a wheelbarrow living in a land of tip trucks".

My worst scenario is - where did it go if it went, has it contributed to Syria or Iran? On the other hand, I guess you could hide almost anything in Iraq, given enough time.
I don't think he would have entrusted a trump card to his neighbours if he had one. Remember the story about the frog and the scorpion? After all, this is the Middle east.

Recognising the man that we saw, the most believable excuse for his suicidal refusal to back down that I have heard is that he wished to persuade Iran that he did have WMD, whether he did or not. Perhaps.

I just can't persuade myself that we have heard the last of this one.

One thing for sure - he warned that if we came the sand would burn beneath our feet - and it certainly did.
But not nearly as hotly as it burned around his neck. If he would have had a way out, he would have used it. An ignominious death at the end of 6 feet of 3/4" hemp rope trumps all suites, I think he would have avoided it at all costs,... including irradiating or poisoning his own people.
 
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But not nearly as hotly as it burned around his neck. If he would have had a way out, he would have used it. An ignominious death at the end of 6 feet of 3/4" hemp rope trumps all suites, I think he would have avoided it at all costs,... including irradiating or poisoning his own people.

Yes - your points accepted, except this one, which is the perhaps the key to my questions. He could have walked away, without confronting USA, just by blinking first. Why didn't he fold at that stage?

Without retrospect, it seems he did a good job of convincing USA and UN that he DID have WMD and the Weapons Inspectors that he might have WMD. There's the rub! Hardly a time to hope that he hadn't. OOh - fingers crossed.
 
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As I said earlier, Middle eastern Machismo coupled with a good dose of over confidence in his own infallibility.

Middle eastern machismo is somewhat like that seen in some South American countries, and it gets plenty of them killed. It is the main cause of problems here in Australia with Lebanese youth groups (gangs). Their over confidence in their own testosterone levels, blinds them to reality.
 
The issue is now greatly confused by so called "patriots" trying to remove an invader. It would be almost impossible to define what is behind much of what is happening at present.

As much as I believe democracy would be good for Iraq, I cannot blame certain sections of the Iraqi people for wanting us out of their country. I would do the same if anyone were to invade my country, but I wouldn't necessarily put it down to my "machismo". Each and every case would need to be judged on it's merits.

All of the above notwithstanding I personally feel that there is a possibility of machismo playing at least some part in the continuance of hostilities. Give a man a gun, and a cause, and people can behave in strange and unpredictable ways.
 
I prefer to look at it more realistically, those are tools our good people utilize to combat evil and give the Iraqi people a chance to prosper and live life as humans instead of animals or patients in lock down in an asylum.
 
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