Topic: Why not have elite forces for machines like tanks and jets? 2

Knightraptor · April 14th, 2005

Well, when(or if) the FCS hits the US military, only a few brigades will be equipped at first. So they could probably be considered the best of the armored forces.

Sea_Cadet · April 14th, 2005

Dude the people that already do the job, are the best at what they do. So therefore this is futile.

WarMachine · April 15th, 2005

The ones we have now are fairly good, but imagine men that made careers out of it. That lived and breathed it. If we could set up a program like that, wouldn't it be a force to be reckoned with, especially on a battlefield.

Sea_Cadet · April 15th, 2005

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Originally Posted by WarMachine

The ones we have now are fairly good, but imagine men that made careers out of it. That lived and breathed it. If we could set up a program like that, wouldn't it be a force to be reckoned with, especially on a battlefield.

Don't need to imagine it, it is being done by the servicemen assigned to such tasks, again special ops is quite different then operation of the MBT

the_13th_redneck · April 15th, 2005

Israeli strike on the Iraqi nuclear power plant way back when would be a classic example of an aircraft based special operations mission.

Sea_Cadet · April 16th, 2005

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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Israeli strike on the Iraqi nuclear power plant way back when would be a classic example of an aircraft based special operations mission.

Strategic strike: stealth bomber, stealth fighter.

WarMachine · April 16th, 2005

Wid jets yea, we pretty much have that whole special operations down. But how come we only have one mbt? Why not multiple versions for different situations? And like aircraft strike teams, you can have armored strike teams. Why not leave the generic missions to the regulars, and the more dynamic ones to the veteran elite?

Monster · April 16th, 2005

Alright, my 2 cents... Armor does have an "elite" side, look at the scouts that are assigned to the brigades and battalions. Wether or not it's called "Special" by the military, most do have the best trained and highly motivated people doing "just a little more" than the rest, and teaching someone else to take their places.

Charge 7 · April 16th, 2005

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But how come we only have one mbt? Why not multiple versions for different situations?

The M8 AGS (Armored Gun System) was supposed to fill this role, however the program was cancelled. Why? Budget concerns. The Army asked that there be no troop cuts so money that would've gone to this system was cut.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...und/m8-ags.htm

WarMachine · April 16th, 2005

This is more of what i'm talking about. In order to be successful in an operation, you need verstatility. The abrams is a good tank but not capable of everything. These lighter tanks would've been perfect for urban combat and special teams alike. I think the army sees that now in all the urban fighting that's been going on. Maybe the elite forces themselves would have marksmenship training for these circumstnaces.

April 14th, 2005	Post 12
Sea_Cadet Primus Pilus	Dude the people that already do the job, are the best at what they do. So therefore this is futile. __________________ Honour.... Courage.... Commitment US Naval Academy \"Non sibi sed patriae!\" (Not for self, but country) US Navy

April 15th, 2005	Post 15
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Israeli strike on the Iraqi nuclear power plant way back when would be a classic example of an aircraft based special operations mission. __________________ I don't exist. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com

April 16th, 2005	Post 18
Monster Immunes	Alright, my 2 cents... Armor does have an "elite" side, look at the scouts that are assigned to the brigades and battalions. Wether or not it's called "Special" by the military, most do have the best trained and highly motivated people doing "just a little more" than the rest, and teaching someone else to take their places. __________________ Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. (I'll either find a way or make one.)

April 14th, 2005	Post 11
Knightraptor Immunes	Well, when(or if) the FCS hits the US military, only a few brigades will be equipped at first. So they could probably be considered the best of the armored forces.

April 15th, 2005	Post 13
WarMachine Primus Pilus	The ones we have now are fairly good, but imagine men that made careers out of it. That lived and breathed it. If we could set up a program like that, wouldn't it be a force to be reckoned with, especially on a battlefield.

April 16th, 2005	Post 17
WarMachine Primus Pilus	Wid jets yea, we pretty much have that whole special operations down. But how come we only have one mbt? Why not multiple versions for different situations? And like aircraft strike teams, you can have armored strike teams. Why not leave the generic missions to the regulars, and the more dynamic ones to the veteran elite?

April 16th, 2005	Post 20
WarMachine Primus Pilus	This is more of what i'm talking about. In order to be successful in an operation, you need verstatility. The abrams is a good tank but not capable of everything. These lighter tanks would've been perfect for urban combat and special teams alike. I think the army sees that now in all the urban fighting that's been going on. Maybe the elite forces themselves would have marksmenship training for these circumstnaces.