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April 17th, 2005   #11
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Actually it appears (and not too surprisingly) that he was a sadomasocist. Eva Braun is not the key so much as Geli Raubal - his own neice with whom he had an affair with that lead to her death. You can read more about it here:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~wimduz/astro/geli1.htm

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Hitler’s sexual desires are described as being "largely voyeuristic, ****-sadistic with the inferior type of women, and masochistic with admired women." Even though Hitler’s realtionship with Geli should have fulfilled the first desire, it seems that it was a combination of both these sexual desires.
Everything Hitler said about women suggests a misogynistic refusal to recognise them as capable of partnership with men on an equal footing. Hitler often quoted a line of Nietzsche: " You are going to see a woman? Do not forget your whip." He also told the wife of an SA officer that " A woman must be a nice little cuddly thing, soft, sweet and stupid." Hitler’s misogyny conditioned his relationship with Geli . He was too narcissistic to look at the life of another human being in the same manner as his own.

With Geli living in the same flat as he did, Hitler could monitor her movements and deprive her of all freedom and privacy. Though there is no evidence to suggest that the two were lovers, it is unlikely that Hitler would have risked living with her if they were not. If she were to live elsewhere this would mean that she would no longer be under Hitler’s control.
Geli was in a weak position. She could not escape from Hitler as she had nowhere to go. She also had no way of making a living since she had dropped out of medical school. If she left Hitler it would also mean that her mother and sister would have to face a life of poverty.
An SA officer and former lover of Geli claimed that she told him how Hitler had forced her into doing things that sickened her. There is little doubt that he forced her into perverted sex. In the privacy of the flat, Hitler could involve her in any sexual games he chose. Sadists have more fun when their victims resist – there was no reason to assume that Geli was a masochist.


"Do not forget your dogs of war, your big guns, which are the most-to-be respected arguments of the rights of kings."

- Frederick the Great, King of Prussia

 
April 17th, 2005   #12
Shadowalker
 
 
Yes...... Hitler let the BEF escape! right! There view of history is actually quite funny!
America was only involved in the war because it wanted to commandeer europe for itself and communist russia?

Adolf Hitler was lookng to right the wrongs of the horrible document in the form of the Treaty of Versailles, he was not looking for world domination. Living space in the east, and a free hand in eastern Europe was all he wanted.

England appeased Germany after their territory demands between 1935-1939 but when the war-monger Churchill took office, it was all out war from then on. No matter how many times Hitler offered peace on generous terms after war was declared on Germany, Britain rejected it outright.

Germany's crime? Looking out for Germans. Why does that sound so familiar? - Ok, so that justifiys the holocaust
 
April 17th, 2005   #13
Corocotta
 
 
Well, every where are appearing new neonazis...we have them in all european countries, In USA, everywhere....so I guess that Nez Zeland is not an exception.




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Corocotta, Cantabrian warrior (century I B.C)
 
April 17th, 2005   #14
chewie_nz
 
luckily i don't believe that the "mainstream" will ever fall for these kind of lies again, the world knows what was let out of the box by hitler and i am positive that the western world will not hurry to let it out again.

unfortunately for NZ, it's small size & population mean that a relatively small number of "active" nazis can make their views felt more than their numbers would suggest.


it's all very scary till you hear them try and express their views, they tie themselves in knots.


i my self have been called a commie, a jew, a race traitor, a homosexual and various combinations of the above.....thats all they have though...it's kinda sad
 
April 17th, 2005   #15
Corocotta
 
 
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luckily i don't believe that the "mainstream" will ever fall for these kind of lies again, the world knows what was let out of the box by hitler and i am positive that the western world will not hurry to let it out again.
Well, that would be great, but here in Europe we have some examples of ultra-right political parties, very close to neo-nazis(if not the same), that are already in the power. See Le-Pen in France, Umberto Bossi & Gian Franco Fini in Italy, Haider in Austria, Edmund Stoiber in Germany,Pim Fortuyn in Holland(he was Killed), The PNV in Spain,and many more examples.
 
April 17th, 2005   #16
Zucchini
 
That's the problem.

Anybody can run, and anybody can win. The Nazis started out small; they eventually started winning elections.
 
April 17th, 2005   #17
Corocotta
 
 
Yes, that´s the problem in European democracies, we are so democratic that we let non-democratic parties play the game. It´s stupid
 
April 17th, 2005   #18
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by Zucchini
That's the problem.

Anybody can run, and anybody can win. The Nazis started out small; they eventually started winning elections.
They won some elections on a smaller scale, the Nazis never one any election to the Presidency. They just used an inexperience democratic system against itself and played a lot of smoke and mirrors. In the end, they could not defeat Hindenburg, so they got Hitler in as Chencellor and then rapidly converted that position into a Dictatorship.

Has any version of Nazi Party actually won the chief executive position by popular majority vote of the people? I don't believe so.


"It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it."
- General Robert E. Lee
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April 18th, 2005   #19
chewie_nz
 
they just love the internet though....they can talk tough without fear that their targets will find out that they're scawny little scared boys, looking for someone to blame for their crappy lives

now they have hit me somewhere personally, my (second) favourite forum...www.punkas.com


Okay, unfortunately I'm being forced to do something I didn't want to do on the message boards. I've always been proud of the open-mindedness of the community here, where we've been able to share ideas and let anyone say anything they like - as long as they can take a bit of healthy argument if people disagree.

About this time last year, a few guys with, to be euphemistic, strong racial separatist views turned up on the message boards. Although I copped a bit of flak for it, I felt that it was important we let anyone say their piece, regardless of whether the majority may disagree with their worldview. As it turned out, the views were challenged pretty convincingly, and repeatedly. I know I found it all rather amusing.

Unfortunately, things quickly generated into petty schoolyard squabbles and name-calling but, hey, nothing necessarily wrong with that. I still defended the rights of these individuals to come here and say whatever they liked, even though they clearly have zero interest in punk music or the punk scene, as long as they showed respect for the fact that this is my web site and it costs me time and money to run - as well as considerable effort on the part of Warren @ Zylex and Jay, who does a lot for absolutely no thanks or payment of any kind.

But this respect has not been shown, with the message board being hacked over the weekend by Fascists. I don't need the additional headache of repairing damage caused by some fifteen-year-old who will never know the loving touch of a woman, so from now on any threads on topics that I regard as being involved in these sorts of issues - regardless of whether it is for or against - will be deleted without warning.

A big thanks to everyone who DOES post useful, intelligent and/or funny posts - that's what the board is for, and I appreciate it a hell of a lot. Cheers, -- Matt

http://www.punkas.com/


GOD I HATE NAZIS!
 
April 18th, 2005   #20
Zucchini
 
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
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Originally Posted by Zucchini
That's the problem.

Anybody can run, and anybody can win. The Nazis started out small; they eventually started winning elections.
They won some elections on a smaller scale,...
I think they held 37% of the legislative seats in the German government. In a situation with multiple parties, that is a significant block of votes.

Then there was a fire and Hitler used that to ban the socialist and communist parties; Germany was his.
 



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