What does a Munitions Systems Apprentice do?

TankDriver: Try Armybasic.com for info on Basic Training (or your nearest recruiter should be able to give you some info) (yes, Redneck, this is a bit OFF TOPIC, but now he knows where to go).

Personally, my Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) (that one is for you Sherman105, but I will bet that the IDF has a term in Hebrew that means the same thing) is 13A, Field Artillery Officer.

I have been trained in all the normal officer stuff - leadership, tactics, logistics, mainentenance, intel and the specific skills of my branch. Along the way, I was also trained in the basic (and some of the advanced) aspects of the following: 13B (Cannon Crewman), 13D (Fire Direction Specialist), 13F (Forward Observer) and 82C (Field Artillery Surveyor). You can't lead soldiers if you don't understand what they are doing.

Sorry that off topic thing makes me look like a jack**s, so don't worry about it.

Gunner13, besides OBC, do you do any further training for the different 13 series MOSs? I'm wondering if you are expected to be well-learned in these different areas with just OBC under your belt, or if there are other schools you go to afterward to gain a better understanding of the different positions. Thank you.

I want 11A (Infantry Officer), or 18A (Special Forces officer). My dream plan is to get 11A initially, go through Ranger school, get stationed with an Airborne Unit (82nd preferably). After I get O-2 promotable, i want to go through SFAS (Special Forces)

You know, this all volunteer Army thing is messing with our chances, ckim, used to be if you wanted Combat Arms, you got it (at least from everything I hear), but now there's actually COMPETITION for them. Good luck with getting 11A, I hope it happens.

You don't have to be inf to go SF. I know a few ordnance O's that are now SF.

Otherwise, just focus on getting through IOBC, get your tab - easier as a 2LT, try to get Abn after so you don't have to make the jump in Rgr school - it only increases the risk of injuries and getting recyled or dropped. When times comes for IOAC, put in your packet for SFAS.

Don't forget legland Ft. Drum .. lots of deployments.

The short answer is yes, there are indeed additional courses for different specialties and they vary by branch (in fact training and education never stops).

Using myself as an example: When I went to FAOBC (lo, these many years ago), it was combined with what they used to call FA Cannon Battery Officer's Course (FACBOC), which focused on cannon battery operations, maintenance, fire direction and tactics. The FA school combined the courses to give FA LTs better training in the basics of artillery (male and female officers), as having them separated did not work out well for officers who were cross posted from missile systems to cannon batteries.

After FAOBC, I went to an additional school to learn about additional subjects, as did every officer, except those who were going straight to a fire support or cannon battery assignment (if they needed specialty training later on in their careers, they were normally sent back to Fort Sill for it).

In my specialty course, FA Target Acquisition and Survey Officer's Course, I picked up FA survey training and I was also trained in metrological operations, sound/flash ranging (boy, I am really dating myself here, aren't I?) and RADARs. FIREFINDER was brand new back then and I was not really trained on it much - that came later, but I am not qualified to run a Q36 or Q37.

The new model OBC will have all newly minted LTs attend a basic branch immaterial OBC, problably at Fort Benning, and then send them on to their branch specific training, which is kind of what I described above, but mre formalized. Just about all of the brach schools have additional specialty courses for different areas.

In your case, if you are indeed commissioned as a 12 series officer and receive an assignment to a scout or cavalry unit, then you would complete the Scout Leader Course after OBC. Other training would be scheduled depending on the unit you are going to and when they need you there.

Thank you for the information, Sir.

You are welcome. I found that the key thing is to ask for everything you can get (training, references, etc.) before you arrive at your unit. Once you are there, its tough to break away and return to the school house prior to the end of your assignment.

Originally Posted by RnderSafe

You don't have to be inf to go SF. I know a few ordnance O's that are now SF.

Otherwise, just focus on getting through IOBC, get your tab - easier as a 2LT, try to get Abn after so you don't have to make the jump in Rgr school - it only increases the risk of injuries and getting recyled or dropped. When times comes for IOAC, put in your packet for SFAS.

Don't forget legland Ft. Drum .. lots of deployments.

I know you don't have to be 11A to get SF...I still want 11A though, in case I don't make it through SFAS/SFQ, I can still try and get into the 75th Ranger reg