Topic: Whats the most decisive naval battle or incident in history? 2

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May 30th, 2004   Post 11
Mark Conley
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santiago..yep gave the US cuba and the phillipines...almost sank spain as a world power...yep!

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June 2nd, 2004   Post 12
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June 2nd, 2004   Post 13
Sapper
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The defeat of the Armada. It prevented -another time- an invassion of England from the Spanish Netherlands, and the poorly equiped English militia would have been crushed if the Tercios achieved to cross the channel.

There's a very interesting novel, called 'Ruled Britannia', that begins with that premise.
 
June 3rd, 2004   Post 14
airmanpatroler
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Santaigo wasn't the most influentual naval engagement... it would have to be Midway or the Armada


Mod Edit: Well thats his opinion, and he's intitled to it. remember, be nice: Its a discussion, not an absolute.
 
June 4th, 2004   Post 15
xopxe1
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the defeat of the Spanish Armada - it created England as the great naval power it was ever since till the WW2. The British Empire as we know it couldn't be there if england hadn't beaten the spanish fleet in first place.
 
June 9th, 2004   Post 16
Damien435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airmanpatroler
battle of monitor and merrimack
That battle itself was a draw, do you mean because it started the age of the Ironclads as opposed to the wood hauled whips?
 
June 19th, 2004   Post 17
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I don't know much about naval battles,let alone ancient ones, but I would say the battle between Persia and athens. (pelloponesian war?) Athens stopped the persian invasion fleet in a stunning victory, greatly helping the Greeks to stay afloat (excuse the pun). Had they lost, and persia invaded greece with her however many thousands of ships, Greece would be lost, and ancient, and possibly modern history, would be completely different.
 
June 20th, 2004   Post 18
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I agree with Sapper, the defeat of the Spanish Armada by the English Navy was perhaps the most significent Naval Battle ever fought. It has not only changed the history of England but also the world. If the Spanish had invaded and conquered England, the British Empire would never have been created. English colonionists may not have inhabited North America and so the Western World would be speaking Spanish not English. The whole course of history would have changed. A slightly different and perhaps not as influential a situation would have occurred if England had lost Trafalgar. Two key Naval Battles in World History.
Though of course we should remember the sacrifices made by Sailors throughout history such as at Jutland and Midway, I believe it was the defeat of the Spanish Armada and Nelson's victory at Trafalgar, which has changed the course of history for ever.
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June 20th, 2004   Post 19
Damien435
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I still don't know why the French had a large, heavy Iron chain tying their ships together at Trafalgar, can anyone explain to me why they did that? All it really did was allow the English to our maneuver them and use it to bog down the French Fleet. And when you think about it, that was the only battle Napoleon lost before he invaded Russia, but it was the most important one, it made the Continential system impossible to enforce.
 
June 20th, 2004   Post 20
Mark Conley
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well about that chain:

one of the tatics when ships met in massed battles was to form lines of the ships, and then try to break a line at the point where the guns of one fleet would be broadside to the enemy, while the enemy would at most only be able to bring their stern or bow weapons to bear at the ships that cut the line. The chain was to prevent this action. Sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didn't. at trafalagar, it didn't.