Topic: What Makes A Good Military leader? 2

the_13th_redneck · October 31st, 2004

Basically you'll need to get the closest thing to a perfect human being. Then you got yourself a good military leader.

Doc.S · October 31st, 2004

That is very true the_13th_redneck

Cheers:
Doc.S

godofthunder9010 · October 31st, 2004

One interesting fact: Ulysses S Grant abosolutely sucked at pretty much everything else he tried in life. Being a General was something he was just naturally good at.

the_13th_redneck · October 31st, 2004

Yeah Grant was pretty good. Lee was actually better, but Grant had more toys to play with.

godofthunder9010 · October 31st, 2004

A friend of mine makes an interesting point. Battle of the Wilderness was similar to a chessmatch between two masters. His numerical strength was not overwhelming. After play and counterplay, block and counterplay again, it was Grant who gained a wedge up the middle and forced Lee to retreat. At the Battle of Vicksburg, his strategies were excellent. He's a tad under-rated sometimes.

Grant's foremost strength in confronting Lee there was that (unlike all prior commanders of the Potomac Army) was that he did not back off in the face of casualties. Lee had perhaps become spoiled by the lack of stomach on the part of prior Union commanders he had faced. Lee is still better, don't get me wrong, but Grant was a lot better of a commander than some historians give him credit for.

cbbr08 · October 31st, 2004

Troop welfare, comunication and acountability

FlyingFrog · October 31st, 2004

You can not make a Great Leader.

All Great Leaders are BORN to be great leaders.

Of course all great leaders have common attributes.

Missileer · October 31st, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingFrog

You can not make a Great Leader.

All Great Leaders are BORN to be great leaders.

Of course all great leaders have common attributes.

I think you've hit on something there FlyingFrog. Audie Murphy and Alvin York along with a lot of other MOH holders seem to have stepped out of the ranks and showed their qualities.

the_13th_redneck · October 31st, 2004

Yup, contrary to belief, not everyone is born equal. From day 1 some of us have it right, some of us have it pretty bad.
It's a lousy thing to say but it is true.
But I think the vast majority of us are still good enough to have reasonable successes. The ones that don't... well either they were in a hopeless situation or they're just not trying.
And for those who really can't get anything done... you can always join the Army lol.

October 31st, 2004	Post 11
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Basically you'll need to get the closest thing to a perfect human being. Then you got yourself a good military leader. __________________ I don't exist. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com

October 31st, 2004	Post 12
Doc.S Centurion	That is very true the_13th_redneck Cheers: Doc.S __________________ Col. Meyers: What\'s your assessment of this situation, Gunny? Highway: It\'s a cluster ****, sir. Marines shouldn\'t be sitting on their sorry asses filling out requisitions for equipment they should already have. Col. Meyers: An astute observation. -Heartbreak Ridge-

October 31st, 2004	Post 13
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	One interesting fact: Ulysses S Grant abosolutely sucked at pretty much everything else he tried in life. Being a General was something he was just naturally good at. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

October 31st, 2004	Post 17
FlyingFrog Tribuni Angusticlavii	You can not make a Great Leader. All Great Leaders are BORN to be great leaders. Of course all great leaders have common attributes. __________________ From Corporals to Generals. Rising Dragons of Middle Kingdom. http://s3.invisionfree.com/PLA_MILIT...TURE/index.php

October 31st, 2004	Post 14
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Yeah Grant was pretty good. Lee was actually better, but Grant had more toys to play with.

October 31st, 2004	Post 15
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	A friend of mine makes an interesting point. Battle of the Wilderness was similar to a chessmatch between two masters. His numerical strength was not overwhelming. After play and counterplay, block and counterplay again, it was Grant who gained a wedge up the middle and forced Lee to retreat. At the Battle of Vicksburg, his strategies were excellent. He's a tad under-rated sometimes. Grant's foremost strength in confronting Lee there was that (unlike all prior commanders of the Potomac Army) was that he did not back off in the face of casualties. Lee had perhaps become spoiled by the lack of stomach on the part of prior Union commanders he had faced. Lee is still better, don't get me wrong, but Grant was a lot better of a commander than some historians give him credit for.

October 31st, 2004	Post 16
cbbr08 Optio	Troop welfare, comunication and acountability

October 31st, 2004	Post 19
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Yup, contrary to belief, not everyone is born equal. From day 1 some of us have it right, some of us have it pretty bad. It's a lousy thing to say but it is true. But I think the vast majority of us are still good enough to have reasonable successes. The ones that don't... well either they were in a hopeless situation or they're just not trying. And for those who really can't get anything done... you can always join the Army lol.