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February 13th, 2007   Post 21
Gator
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Originally Posted by MontyB
Yeah because real life experience is irrelevant if you aren't 60, fought in 3 world wars and flown in space or at least pretended you did in your profile.
Word on the street is some Profiles here are permitted to be intentionally misleading, which translates into what my understanding of the premise is as some Profiles are permitted to be intentionally falsified here.
So, keeping that in mind, and seeing how there is no official list for such, a list of who is and who is not allowed, I'd say it would be a safe bet to distrust any profile.... except ones own, perhaps.
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February 13th, 2007   Post 22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator
Word on the street is some Profiles here are permitted to be intentionally misleading, which translates into what my understanding of the premise is as some Profiles are permitted to be intentionally falsified here.
So, keeping that in mind, and seeing how there is no official list for such, a list of who is and who is not allowed, I'd say it would be a safe bet to distrust any profile.... except ones own, perhaps.
Surely that makes his argument even less defensible because if you can not trust the profile then you have no idea whether a person is what they claim to be which means that some of the "senior members" he so happily backs regardless of post content could just as easily be spotty 15 year olds using a parents profile.

I also struggle to see any reason to allow falsified profiles given that we can simply leave them empty of information or with the bare minimum of data which is a damn sight more secure than some mickey mouse story that can have holes picked in it.


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Originally Posted by Damien435
I think the problem with rogue's statement is that it was like walking in front of a group full of pregnant teens and telling them they are all sinners damned to spend an eternity in hell for their actions. It's not going to change anything, it just makes the ones who can't travel feel guilty for it like they are not doing their part. Plus his last sentence made the whole statement sound like it was saying "If you do this all your problems will be solved!" which we all know is just untrue.
I didn't get that impression at all, I interpreted it as a statement encouraging people to travel and see the world which is not a bad thing.
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February 13th, 2007   Post 23
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Originally Posted by WNxRogue
its not too expensive and time consuming to travel abroad.
How's that impression now?
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February 13th, 2007   Post 24
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Originally Posted by MontyB
Surely that makes his argument even less defensible because if you can not trust the profile then you have no idea whether a person is what they claim to be which means that some of the "senior members" he so happily backs regardless of post content could just as easily be spotty 15 year olds using a parents profile.

I also struggle to see any reason to allow falsified profiles given that we can simply leave them empty of information or with the bare minimum of data which is a damn sight more secure than some mickey mouse story that can have holes picked in it.
I was a little shocked to find out about it myself. I believe you can still see the response to my post here http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/293668-post.html stating that such is allowed here.

It never cesses to amaze me though, as I see things, that some may have claimed membership in the Sneaky Feet Club, or Spies Are Us Club, and tell some people on-line what they do, so as to be allowed to make things up to tell others in the group.
Instead of, as you pointed out, not saying much about it at all, and or just leaving things blank.
 
February 13th, 2007   Post 25
senojekips
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Someone here seems to be inferring that a long lifetimes experience counts for nothing, and that the average teenager is just as knowledgeable in all of these matters. Although I could be mistaken. Mea Culpa. Yeah..... good point, NOT.

Once again, I may well be wrong but I feel that this type of thinking would most likely come from someone who has perhaps never really had any real "life experience"???

Last edited by senojekips; February 13th, 2007 at 07:58. Reason: Added last sentence.
 
February 13th, 2007   Post 26
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Originally Posted by bulldogg
A classic example of why I would opt to give more credence to the older member's posting.
GIVE IT A REST!!!

Anyway, to the origional post of this thread, the guys a minority in his views, and a right silly bugger at that
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February 13th, 2007   Post 27
MontyB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogg
How's that impression now?
Unchanged:
1) Its a general statement as indicated by the use of the word "Too" and not a statement of fact or the "Too" would be missing.

2) He is correct in the scheme of things travel is not very expensive (thats not to say some people cant afford to travel) and it doesn't take all that long to get anywhere in the world which kind of negates the less vacation time argument.

Personally I think your targeting of his posts is more due to the fact that you believe he should defer to your opinion than it is about the quality of his posts which I believe are perfectly acceptable.
 
February 13th, 2007   Post 28
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Fair enough, your opinion.
 
February 13th, 2007   Post 29
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Originally Posted by Gator
I was a little shocked to find out about it myself. I believe you can still see the response to my post here http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/293668-post.html stating that such is allowed here.

It never cesses to amaze me though, as I see things, that some may have claimed membership in the Sneaky Feet Club, or Spies Are Us Club, and tell some people on-line what they do, so as to be allowed to make things up to tell others in the group.
Instead of, as you pointed out, not saying much about it at all, and or just leaving things blank.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator...o_Jack_Kennedy

You are a real worry if you are that unfamiliar with not too distant US political history. Fancy showing such ignorance. I find it hard to accept someone can be your claimed age, and be a claimed US resident, and claim so much knowledge on so much in the area of US politics and history and yet so completely and so absolutely miss the pun of my post on Obama, JFK, and Bentsen in the context of the thread you refer to above. You have been shown up by an Aussie on your own area of implied expertise.

Last edited by Padre; February 13th, 2007 at 11:11.
 
February 13th, 2007   Post 30
WNxRogue
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Originally Posted by bulldogg
A classic example of why I would opt to give more credence to the older member's posting. How many vacations overseas, at the ripe old age of 17, have you personally paid for that were affordable? A round trip ticket to China, just the friggin ticket is over one thousand US dollars for one adult.

Did you think about your post first??
I would love to clarify my post, since it seems the point of it has been either misinterperated or knowingly twisted. The point was to say that traveling is something important for the growth of children all around the world and that it is something that should, if the means are available, be done by every family.

In reference to your snide comments about my age. Yes, I have purchased a ticket overseas. Yes, I know how expensive a flight to China is, but according to www.orbitz.com I can get a ticket to Heathrow (London, England) from Tampa International for $662 round trip per adult, and that is with 2 stops and with about 10 seconds of research. Im fairly sure with more research and by calling the actual airlines ect. ect. you could get an even cheaper price.

PS. According to the same site, I can get a round trip ticket to Bejing, China from Tampa International for $798 per adult, not the $1000 you claimed. That also took about 7 seconds of research.

Id be very gratified Bulldogg, if you would read my posts and NOT make it a mission to somehow attack my age, regardless of what I said or how you feel on the topic. I hope when I get older, I learn the value of everyones opinions, regardless of their age or background. By the same token, im happy that I have learned the value of actually doing research.

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Originally Posted by Damien435
It's not going to change anything, it just makes the ones who can't travel feel guilty for it like they are not doing their part. Plus his last sentence made the whole statement sound like it was saying "If you do this all your problems will be solved!" which we all know is just untrue.
It was not my intention to make anyone feel guilty, just my opinion on how I think traveling effects younger children. My last sentence said that parents and teachers should make it a priority to travel overseas, which is like saying "your grades should be a priority" or "one of my priorities is to play football" That is not to say that it will solve everything, just that it can help you grow in many important ways.
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Last edited by WNxRogue; February 13th, 2007 at 12:32.
 



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