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June 23rd, 2005   Post 1
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Post; In wake of Iraq war, allies prefer China to U.S.


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Poll: In wake of Iraq war, allies prefer China to U.S.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States' image is so tattered overseas two years after the Iraq invasion that communist China is viewed more favorably than the U.S. in many long-time Western European allies, an international poll has found.

The poor image persists even though the Bush administration has been promoting freedom and democracy throughout the world in recent months -- which many viewed favorably -- and has sent hundreds of millions of dollars in relief aid to Indian Ocean nations hit by the devastating December 26 tsunami...

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June 24th, 2005   Post 2
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no suprise really
china is arguably the worlds strongest and most influential country, in terms of military and economics
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June 24th, 2005   Post 3
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China is only communist in name anymore. The country's government still bears the title of CCP but in reality their ideological approach to governance is one of extreme nationalism and the methodology is that of a totalitarian state with the appearance of socialism. Some scholars, like Chalmers Johnson, have termed their methods to be that of "soft authoritarianism" but after reading The Tianamen Papers edited by Andrew J. Nathan and Perry Link I would disagree with the former assessment. It does seem though that the usage of the term "communist china" is really jingoistic journalism IMHO.
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June 24th, 2005   Post 4
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the world is truly becoming multi-polar,

EU, Russia, India, China, U.S ,maybe brazil will be dominating the world together
 
June 24th, 2005   Post 5
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i thought the EU was essentially dead?
 
June 24th, 2005   Post 6
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na.....some difficulties on the EU road are obviously going to happen, but the general direction won't change

europe got to stay together to compete with rising power like india, china, brazil

and their leaders know that


i hope China can become more democratic in the future (which is happening right now, detail read this week's TIME cover story),

by than, more ppl will drop their "political discrimination (like RED China the big commie) and accept the fact that china is always a moderate power and will rise in a moderate way
 
June 24th, 2005   Post 7
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Poll: In wake of Iraq war, allies prefer China to U.S.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States' image is so tattered overseas two years after the Iraq invasion that communist China is viewed more favorably than the U.S. in many long-time Western European allies, an international poll has found.

The poor image persists even though the Bush administration has been promoting freedom and democracy throughout the world in recent months -- which many viewed favorably -- and has sent hundreds of millions of dollars in relief aid to Indian Ocean nations hit by the devastating December 26 tsunami...

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To be perfectly honest I really doubt the accuracy of and value of the data given however I think when people in those polls talk of the US they are refering to your top 4 politicians and would probably have a more favourable view of your average american.
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June 24th, 2005   Post 8
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i agree with that


i dont think ppl hate american ppl in general

maybe just Bush's aggressive attitude,

but since Bush is far away hiding in Whitehouse

other nations' ppl can only pour their anger on average americans, pretty unfortunate
 
June 24th, 2005   Post 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSmaster

by than, more ppl will drop their "political discrimination (like RED China the big commie) and accept the fact that china is always a moderate power and will rise in a moderate way
The historical record does not support this claim. We can look to recent history and if you could explain how the following incidents are the doings of a "moderate" power. I do not see China as a warmongering threat to world peace but I (IMHO) would not classify them as moderate. I guess I wonder what is your definition of a moderate power?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...rc-vietnam.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...atly-clash.htm

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_422875.htm

http://web.amnesty.org/appeals/index/chn-010104-wwa-eng
 
June 24th, 2005   Post 10
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There's an interesting article titled "The New Anti-Americanism – A British Perspective"
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The new strain of Anti-Americanism in Europe has damaged the Atlantic alliance and can only encourage America to pursue a unilateralist answer to common world problems. It is therefore incumbent upon moderates in Europe to vocally reject Anti-Americanism’s empty rhetoric – a rhetoric that is essentially prejudicial in nature and devoid of any rationality.
http://hnn.us/articles/printfriendly/9091.html
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