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April 8th, 2008   Post 11
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"I'm Jim Broussard," he said, "and I took this flag down in honor of my country with … a knife from the United States Army. I'm a veteran, I'm not going to see this done to my country. If they want to fight us, then they need to be men, and they need to come and fight us. But I want somebody to fight me for this flag. They're not going to get it back."
What a neanderthal, what's with the obsession of having to fight everybody out of some misplaced honour? We don't cut down your stars and stripes everytime we see it flying overhere (And I see that on a regular basis). And this is not out of cowardice it is called descency and the ability to respect the same pattriotism other people feel for their country. In what way does this offend you or disrespect you? Is your honour truely so narrow that it leaves no room for others to feel proud of their heritage? This Broussard wants to fight for his and does not understand that others want to show theirs.....
 
April 8th, 2008   Post 12
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Someone has at last had enough of this touchy feely, can't insult the neighbours crap.

I am a great supporter of the police, but they are too often hamstrung by political considerations. I'm sure Mexicans would feel similarly insulted if you flew the Stars and Stripes above their flag in Mexico, and rightfully so.
Yeah. Whatever happened to the one on one, man to man talk? Now it's "I'll call the police," "I'm calling my lawyer."
Pansies.
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April 8th, 2008   Post 13
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Yeah. Whatever happened to the one on one, man to man talk? Now it's "I'll call the police," "I'm calling my lawyer."
Pansies.
Actually thats just what I said, why didn't the vet simply ask the bar owner to change the display. All this did did was solve a criminal act by committing another one.
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April 8th, 2008   Post 14
senojekips
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Originally Posted by Ted
What a neanderthal, what's with the obsession of having to fight everybody out of some misplaced honour? \
Misplaced honour??... come again? I dunno about the Netherlands Ted, but where I come from patriotism is never "misplaced". Other than that the act was against the law so he was just doing his duty as a law abiding citizen.

Perhaps we Aussies are not as vocal about it as the Yanks, but try dishonouring Australia in our own country and you might well get a flea in your ear. In my opinion, anyone who wouldn't fight for the honour of his country is not deserving of citizenship within that country. By that I do not mean that one should go out and flatten every "foreigner" that you see, but you shouldn't have to put up with blatant insults either.

P.S. in this case Neanderthal is spelt with a capital letter. Go Neanderthals!!
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April 8th, 2008   Post 15
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Misplaced honour??... come again? I dunno about the Netherlands Ted, but where I come from patriotism is never "misplaced". Other than that the act was against the law so he was just doing his duty as a law abiding citizen.

Perhaps we Aussies are not as vocal about it as the Yanks, but try dishonouring Australia in our own country and you might well get a flea in your ear. In my opinion, anyone who wouldn't fight for the honour of his country is not deserving of citizenship within that country. By that I do not mean that one should go out and flatten every "foreigner" that you see, but you shouldn't have to put up with blatant insults either.

P.S. in this case Neanderthal is spelt with a capital letter. Go Neanderthals!!
Actually I am going to go with Ted on this one although with a little less passion as I can understand his actions as a last resort but agree that it was somewhat over done as an initial reaction and the presence of TV cameras just makes me think this was yet another publicity stunt.

If there was no attempt to rectify the issue before this action then I agree with Ted that it was somewhat Neanderthalic.

One of my neighbours hoists a different nationalities flag every day and has done for a good 15 or so years it has been a good learning experience.

I also have a question, apparently it is illegal to fly another nationalities flag above the US one in this location so what would happen if they just stopped flying the US flag?

Oh and to what extent could the bar owner have gone to protecting his property from an armed man?
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Last edited by MontyB; April 8th, 2008 at 20:34.
 
April 8th, 2008   Post 16
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You know, now that I've calmed down and read this a second time, they both should be prosecuted.
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April 8th, 2008   Post 17
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I also have a question, apparently it is illegal to fly another nationalities flag above the US one in this location so what would happen if they just stopped flying the US flag?
Kinda wondered that myself.
 
April 8th, 2008   Post 18
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Had he just been flying just the Mexican Flag or flying a Mexican and US flag on seperate staffs in the proper configuration it's not a problem not a violation.

My biggest question with this whole situation is this. If this gentleman was so annoyed and angered by this why did he first call the media, and second wait for them to show up before he cut the flag down. Why not just cut it down and be done with it?
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April 8th, 2008   Post 19
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You do have another interesting point here.

I'm almost wondering if this isn't an "I love my country and I want everyone to know" and just a "Lookit me! I'm on TV!"
 
April 8th, 2008   Post 20
senojekips
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
My biggest question with this whole situation is this. If this gentleman was so annoyed and angered by this why did he first call the media, and second wait for them to show up before he cut the flag down. Why not just cut it down and be done with it?
Perhaps he just decided that enough was enough, someone had to make a public example of this rudeness???

There are times when the authorities have more to do than run around policing such offences, this in no way reduces the wrongfulness of the act, good manners alone, should have decreed that he fly the Mexican flag below that of the Star and Stripes whilst within the US and of course vice versa if he were in Mexico.

It was a blatant slap in the face to all US citizens, pure and simple. The business operator got what he asked for. What I ask is "why is he surprised"?

Monty, I believe there are times when the Neanderthals have their place.

Last edited by senojekips; April 8th, 2008 at 21:06.
 



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