Topic: Using a General for Bait

tomtom22 · January 7th, 2006

Back in the early '80s I was stationed at Ramstein AB. We took our F-4Es to Deci (Sardinia, Italy) for air to air combat training on the Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumented (ACMI) Range. At the time the F-15 was relatively new and it wasn't unusual for an old F-4 pilot to win against a new F-15 driver.
We had a young pilot who had quite the reputation as a good stick and a quick thinker. Our wing commander, a one star general who later made four but should remain nameless to protect his pride and honor, decided that he and this hot shot should take on some Eagles. He thought it would be a good test of this young Lieutenant's skills.
Once clear money these two rhino drivers went off to do battle against four eagles. This was a stacked deck if ever there was one.
The plan was for the two Phantoms to rip through the flight of Eagles, get positive identifications, and come around and mix it up with them. As they closed to radar range the general (he was flying lead of course) said to go to burner for the identification run. He did. The lieutenant chopped the throttles, put out the speed brakes, and more or less came to a sudden stop. The general went through the enemy formation screaming that they were bad guys so the lieutenant started firing radar guided missiles at them. Got all four and became an instant hero among the USAF and British F-4 people on the island.
When they landed the young pilot's feet couldn't touch the payment since he was being carried around by the troops. That lasted until the general taxied in and started in on our young hero for using a superior officer for bait. Needless to say, his attitude only made things all the sweeter for not only had a one F-4 beat four F-15s, he'd done it using a general as cannon fodder.
The lieutenant didn't buy a drink the rest of the deployement.

MSgt Ray Albright, USAF (Ret)

Padre · January 7th, 2006

probably shouldn't break neutrality, but even the chaplain would buy that young gun a beer.

Marinerhodes · January 7th, 2006

HAHAHAHA Nice nice !!

Team Infidel · January 7th, 2006

That's awesome. See the Rabbit run....

Navy Boy · January 8th, 2006

LOL!

phoenix80 · January 8th, 2006

very silly!

hahahaha

AJChenMPH · January 8th, 2006

Classic! What did the GIBs/WSOs say about all this?

AFSteliga · January 10th, 2006

Gotta love that.

January 7th, 2006	Post 1
tomtom22 Chief Engineer Gear	Post; Using a General for Bait Back in the early '80s I was stationed at Ramstein AB. We took our F-4Es to Deci (Sardinia, Italy) for air to air combat training on the Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumented (ACMI) Range. At the time the F-15 was relatively new and it wasn't unusual for an old F-4 pilot to win against a new F-15 driver. We had a young pilot who had quite the reputation as a good stick and a quick thinker. Our wing commander, a one star general who later made four but should remain nameless to protect his pride and honor, decided that he and this hot shot should take on some Eagles. He thought it would be a good test of this young Lieutenant's skills. Once clear money these two rhino drivers went off to do battle against four eagles. This was a stacked deck if ever there was one. The plan was for the two Phantoms to rip through the flight of Eagles, get positive identifications, and come around and mix it up with them. As they closed to radar range the general (he was flying lead of course) said to go to burner for the identification run. He did. The lieutenant chopped the throttles, put out the speed brakes, and more or less came to a sudden stop. The general went through the enemy formation screaming that they were bad guys so the lieutenant started firing radar guided missiles at them. Got all four and became an instant hero among the USAF and British F-4 people on the island. When they landed the young pilot's feet couldn't touch the payment since he was being carried around by the troops. That lasted until the general taxied in and started in on our young hero for using a superior officer for bait. Needless to say, his attitude only made things all the sweeter for not only had a one F-4 beat four F-15s, he'd done it using a general as cannon fodder. The lieutenant didn't buy a drink the rest of the deployement. MSgt Ray Albright, USAF (Ret) __________________ "It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle." - Norman Schwarskopf, Commander of Desert Storm Operations

January 7th, 2006	Post 4
Team Infidel Milforums Spamkiller Gear	That's awesome. See the Rabbit run.... __________________

January 8th, 2006	Post 5
Navy Boy I LOVE THE ARMY!!!!!! Gear	LOL! __________________ This is Vice Admiral J. Kevin Moran Semper Fortis

January 8th, 2006	Post 7
AJChenMPH Forum Health Inspector Gear	Classic! What did the GIBs/WSOs say about all this? __________________ Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" -- Isaiah 6:8

January 10th, 2006	Post 8
AFSteliga Cadet Moderator Gear	Gotta love that. __________________ Pte K. Steliga Canadian Forces School of Aerospace Control Operations QL3 0027 Per ardua ad astra

January 7th, 2006	Post 2
Padre Milforum Chaplain Gear	probably shouldn't break neutrality, but even the chaplain would buy that young gun a beer.

January 8th, 2006	Post 6
phoenix80 Banned Gear	very silly! hahahaha

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