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August 30th, 2009   #1
benaakatz
 
 

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Which country had a stronger military (army, air force, navy) at the outset of the pacific war?
 
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August 30th, 2009   #2
George
 
Japan most likely. Havent seen a ranking list, supposedly the US was about equal with Romania or Bulgaria in 1940. Good sized Navy & that was about it.
 
August 30th, 2009   #3
Titanium
 
 
It rings me a bell, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Japanese Imperial Navy was one of the top five in the world in that time, and US one was a modest fleet.
 
August 30th, 2009   #4
rattler
 
 
Wrong IMHO what was said so far.

In 39 the US navy was "relatively" weak (but nothing even faintly comparable to Rumania or Bulgaria, just check the Battleship and Cruiser numbers and capabilites below, but in 1941 at the war entry the (ordered earlier than 39) ships that in 39 were still under construction were ready to deploy.

1939 stats (US):

- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/BattleForce.html
- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/CruBatFor.html
- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/DesBatFor.html (Part I Destroyers)
- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/DesBatFor2.html (Part II Destroyers)

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August 31st, 2009   #5
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rattler
Wrong IMHO what was said so far.

In 39 the US navy was "relatively" weak (but nothing even faintly comparable to Rumania or Bulgaria, just check the Battleship and Cruiser numbers and capabilites below, but in 1941 at the war entry the (ordered earlier than 39) ships that in 39 were still under construction were ready to deploy.

1939 stats (US):

- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/BattleForce.html
- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/CruBatFor.html
- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/DesBatFor.html (Part I Destroyers)
- http://www.geocities.com/scs028a/DesBatFor2.html (Part II Destroyers)

Rattler
Clarification: I was refering to the Army in regards to Bulgaria.
 
August 31st, 2009   #6
rattler
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by George
Clarification: I was refering to the Army in regards to Bulgaria.
Noted, cannot comment on that claim for lack of knowledge.

Rattler
 
September 1st, 2009   #7
A Can of Man
 
 
Either way, when the American industrial machine kicked in, there was no way the Japanese could match it.
 
September 1st, 2009   #8
LeEnfield
 
 
Japan had been at war in China for years and was geared up for war, so at the start they had the upper hand. Japan had hoped the the US would seek terms quickly leaving them with the spoils. Thank goodness America is not like that, as many of the US factories were already on a war footing supplying arms for Britain then it was not such a job to rev these up for the benefit of America


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September 2nd, 2009   #9
bren122
 
 
The US army in 1939 was ranked behind that of Belgium at, from memory, 16th in the world in terms of size.
The US Navy was ranked 4th in the world, again from memory, as opposed to Japan at 5th in terms of tonnages. (although that might be the other way around) i think that there was almost parity of tonnages in the Pacific and that the American Atlantic Fleet put them over the top. if you take it in terms of carriers then America was 3rd and Japan 2nd in 1939; by 1941 Japan had taken the lead with losses to the RN and new construction for the IJN.
from memory the book i am trying to recall did not have a ranking for air forces; it did note that Japan had more modern types but many of these lacked self sealing fuel tanks and cockpit armour which proved significant disadvantages when the performance gap between Allied and Japanese air craft narrowed.
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September 2nd, 2009   #10
A Can of Man
 
 
The USN was powerful enough to disrupt the flow of supplies from the Dutch East Indies to Japan... which was one of the main reasons why the Japanese took the fight to the Americans.
 



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