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July 21st, 2006   Post 101
MontyB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Bones
There are those that are planning on us ending up with a Can-Am-Mex multicultural pride instead of old fashioned American pride.
Umm but what exactly is "old fashioned American pride." if not a mixture of its early settlement nations which would be European, Spanish (Mexican) and British/French (which is more or less Canadian).
Oh and I know Britain, France and Spain are European but they were in the american colonisation game well before the likes of Italy, Germany etc.
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July 21st, 2006   Post 102
WarMachine
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?

Why are you guys so worried about change? If anything it will affect the cities for a while and then deseminate across main stream culture to a point where people forget where it came from. Like how rock and roll was original black in origin but was breeded in so many ways that it changed attitude completely. That's just popular culture but it's how things are, it's how it's always been, how can you worry about that now?

BTW, most hispanic immigrants do want to learn english if they don't know it. It's very advantageous for getting a better quality of life.

Gee, remember when those white as eggs catholic irish were ruining this country? What happened to them? Oh yeah, they're americans now.
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July 23rd, 2006   Post 103
Chief Bones
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Post; I'm biased ... but ... here goes .....


Warmachine
The thrust of my post is NOT as vain or as trivial as you would paint it.

There are those that would marginalize the contributions that have been made by all of the immigrants that have come to this country and added their presence to the melting pot which is the United States of America. The contributions haven't always been peaceful or voluntary ... the growing pains of the "grand experiment" (democracy), were sometimes violent.

The spirit of America is a unique amalgamation that is America's alone ... no other country has been able to match the US for the smooth blending of cultures. This is the ONLY country that has citizens from every other country on earth. Even Europe with it's ancient lineage hasn't been able to match America's melting pot blending.

What these jerks would do is to destroy the spirit of this uniqueness and replace it with some kind of creature which isn't Canadian, Mexican or American. It would be a creature which would be unrecognizable to the immigrants that made America the nation everyone else wants to immigrate to ... America would no longer have the reputation of having it's city's streets paved with gold ... and ... America would no longer be the magnet for those who would improve their lot in life.

I absolutely know that there are going to be those who are members of this forum that are going to bristle and violently disagree with MY biased assessment ... after all, I AM AN AMERICAN that loves his country even with it's scars and blemishes, who will oppose those that would destroy it's uniqueness.

Those that dislike America will have the most slanted posts ... and ... I fully expect that. You are welcome to your opinions ... just don't expect me to agree with them.
 
July 23rd, 2006   Post 104
Italian Guy
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While I agree with you.
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July 24th, 2006   Post 105
Missileer
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For a country that started with nothing, America has become something unique in the World. It took all kinds of people working together to become what we are today ONE. E Pluribus Unum, as far as I remember, is still our motto. One irony that I like to refer to is that the work of a group of Jews ended one of our most destructive wars in Japan.
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July 25th, 2006   Post 106
WarMachine
Primus Pilus
 
 
Change is change.

You either make sure chane happens smoothly or you oppose it and contribute very little in the process. Especially in this country where change happens frequently for all sorts of reasons.
 
July 25th, 2006   Post 107
Chief Bones
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarMachine
Change is change.

You either make sure chane happens smoothly or you oppose it and contribute very little in the process. Especially in this country where change happens frequently for all sorts of reasons.
Change for change sake is counter productive ... that is something that America has never done ... any change was a natural progression/natural evolution (or) something that was thought out over a long time. This takes in societal experiments, growing pains, wars, civil unrest and all sorts and manner of other civil and moral areas.

The "Grand Experiment" has survived good leaders, bad leaders, good laws, bad laws, war, civil unrest, deep recessions and all manner of difficult times. The melting pot, the deep faith that runs throughout the nation and above all else, an abiding belief that America can/will overcome any obstacle ... all of these things and more have inoculated the nation with a will to survive and succeed that is missing from many other countries.

Just when foreign people think that the US is going down for the count, the United States rebounds with a flash and a will that amazes and baffles our detractors.

As long as the United States is the destination for those seeking a better life and the melting pot continues to absorb the best of the immigrants contributions, America will continue to be the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.
 
July 27th, 2006   Post 108
Mohmar Deathstrike
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Missileer
E Pluribus Unum, as far as I remember, is still our motto.
Didn't they change it to In God We Trust a couple of decades ago?
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarMachine
Why are you guys so worried about change?
By definition, conservatives are threatened by change.

Last edited by Mohmar Deathstrike; July 27th, 2006 at 11:01.
 
July 27th, 2006   Post 109
Rob Henderson
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Yes. In 1956 the motto was changed. Now, E Pluribus Unum is certainly the 2nd if not most popular motto.

Shown here.http://usscouts.org/flag/sealmotto.html
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July 29th, 2006   Post 110
WarMachine
Primus Pilus
 
 
I bet it was changed because nobody knew that E pluribus unum meant "out of many, one", i think that's right anyway. In god we trust is much simpler and it's on a lot of our money, making our currency like memo if you will.
 



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