The rather amusing thing about it all is that it is the ultimate nightmare X vs Y scenario. The sides would have to duke it out in the Atlantic for ... heaven knows how long. Then, once one side or the other manages to completely destroy all naval resistance and severely cripple the other side's air power ... well now they'd get to launch the biggest and most insanely complicated amphibious assault in human history.

Didn't several people point out that there'd be no point anyways? Neither side would have anything to gain.

We Can Sink The Carriers With U-Boats or something, and don't tell me they are to well protected cause a Swedish U-Boat during a exercise With US-Navy got true the defenses i think.

From what ive read these were generally, just tracking exercises were our ships just tried to avoid the subs without actually haveing on war-gameing going on. These were also done without wasting sono-buoys and typically without the support of a carrier groups LA class subs.

Also a battle in the Alantic would be a blue water affair deisel boats can only go so far. The biggest sub threat the USN would face would come from the Brits and Russians.

Originally Posted by Bulldog

Read the forum rules.

Let us kids play

Throw in some zombies and you have the next "____ of the Dead" movie.

I'm surprised the Mods haven't shut this down.

Originally Posted by Radwan

But it would be pointless.

This is completely a 'what if' type thing.

What in the world does Europe have that we would NEED to invade them to get it?

IQ. .

I think we would lose on the Atlantic but I don't think the US (or any other major power) could ever beat UK+Russia+France+Poland+Spain+Sweden+Germany+Nethe rlands+... on the ground. That would be soo many tanks, aircrafts, artillery, 3+ million soldiers, several times as much reservists, a versatile decentral defence industry.

Also many of the smaller european countries have relatively large arsenals of uptodate conventional weapons, e.g. Switzerland alone has about 400 Leopard MBTs. Anyway pointless if you include Russia in the coalition. With enough european money they would easily tie up to their former strength.

Space aliens. We need to add aliens to the "what ifs." Zombies, aliens, and global war, oh my!

Originally Posted by loki

I think we would lose on the Atlantic but I don't think the US (or any other major power) could ever beat UK+Russia+France+Poland+Spain+Sweden+Germany+Nethe rlands+... on the ground. That would be soo many tanks, aircrafts, artillery, 3+ million soldiers, several times as much reservists, a versatile decentral defence industry.

Also many of the smaller european countries have relatively large arsenals of uptodate conventional weapons, e.g. Switzerland alone has about 400 Leopard MBTs. Anyway pointless if you include Russia in the coalition. With enough european money they would easily tie up to their former strength.

I agree, give Wester teknology to Russia And All Eastern European Countrys That with ther population i think we would kick ass.

Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

Wow, a _________ vs _________ thread that isn't locked yet. Wonder how long this one will last?

Not much longer now...

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