![]() | About US torturing terror suspects? Page 2 |
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| | However, I do realised I'm talking to people who have been there and done that; so my opinion isn't quite as valid as theirs are, for obvious reasons. Ducimus: we lead The difference between bravery and stupidity is timining. |
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I will agree that those taken during combat with a military force should be treated as EPW's. However if it is found that they planned or carried out attacks against Civilian targets. Then all bets should be off. Soliders do not make war on civilians. Terrorists do. So IMO terrorists should not reap the benefits accorded to legitimate combatants. Sgt. Rafael Peralta ,United States Marine Corps Company A, 1st Bn, 3rd Marine Regt, 3rd Marine Divison We will never forget your valor and sacrifice. Semper Fi ! |
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I'll have to agree with you on that. However, I would think that these terrorist would be treated in the same way as the Oklahoma state bomber (did I get that right?). From my understanding he was sentenced to death, through a criminal court; not through some other means.
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Okay I can go with that. But is it allowable for the US to return a terrorist to a country who's laws have stiffer penalties for such crimes. As most Islamic States do? I think it is. Just as Canada will not extridite persons facing death penelty cases, maybe we should it allow it. |
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The Canadian immigration board has no idea of what it's own policies are. We just sent a women back to Iran where she's facing jail time for a student protest. She had been meaningfully employed and invovled int he community. This is also after the Iranian killed a Canadian reporter and have refused to send us the body or do an autopsy Personally, I don't have a problem with them being shipped back home, hopefully it can show their countrymen that it's not worth it. I do have a problem with places like Guantonamo Bay were people are held with out charge for years. |
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“War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.” —John Stuart Mill | |
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oh boo hoo, someone MAY have tortured a few terrorists, hmm i bet the terrorists would never do that to anyone(saracasm and a whole lot of it). those people(i use "people" lightly) deserve every thing that they get and the damn ACLU needs to quit whining because i don't think they would get a hug from osama if he met them. -Victory is mine -Yes but no sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you -Oh. Mmm, yes, this is better than *sex*, it\'s like an orgy in my mouth; good news Flappy, I\'ve decided not to kill you -Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers. -How ironic ? Rogers - it almost rhymes with... eliminate. |
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once again i feel that someone needs to say. why do we need to go down to that level. i don't hear anyone owning up to torturing nazi party members? aren't you just giving them a reason to continue their struggle. you win these struggles by building hospitals and school. not by torturing people. and esp not by setting the wrong example for this middle eastern experiment in democracy |
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"America has no friends , only interests" (Clinton) Example, (IMO) invade and conquer for Oil, stand by do nothing during mass killings in Africa "Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." (B. Franklin) Example, The Patriot Act, if you read the text you would understand. The days of getting down to their level has not been around since the high days of the Peace Corp. First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. Pastor Martin Niemöller I think is happening again, just replace some of the names. Also Read Crimes and Mercies: The Fate Of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950 by James Bacque A Terrible Revenge : The Ethnic Cleansing of the East European Germans by Alfred-Maurice de Zayas Other Losses by James Bacque Viva Franco, Arriba Espana | |
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Torture seems a fitting punishment but does that mean we must lower ourselves to thier level? No! No i say , we should rise above that and no matter what they may do we must show we are better and we will not be brought back down to that kind of fighting. |
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