Originally Posted by Kenty

I second that!

I will shoot myself in the head before it happens. Britain will not be dragged into this "United States of Europe."

Britain is completely different to the rest of Europe. We once ruled the world, and now everyone is trying to rule us- it ain't gonna happen while I'm still breathing

Italy once rolled the world as well(see Roman Empire), Spain also did...
Do not be so chouvinist.
But any way, we do not need you.

I think i would have to go on a rampage in belgium if that happened

why the **** would we want to change? 4th biggest economy in the world, pound as strong as its ever been, and getting stronger. Plus, if we join those pussies we'd never get to go to war again

Originally Posted by staurofilakes

Italy once rolled the world as well(see Roman Empire), Spain also did...

True... but they didn't own 33% of the entire planet and all existance of the Roman and Spanish empires are gone. The Commonwealth still exists

Originally Posted by Kenty

True... but they didn't own 33% of the entire planet and all existance of the Roman and Spanish empires are gone. The Commonwealth still exists

Not all existence of Spanish empire is gone, just one example, over 300 million people just in southamerica speaks spanish. If you think all existence of Roman Empire is gone....well...just read & travel a litle bit.

By the way, you can stay in your island, who cares....

Originally Posted by staurofilakes

By the way, you can stay in your island, who cares....

Good- just remember that the next time your country or any other Euro country starts making demands to ours.

Originally Posted by Kenty

Good- just remember that the next time your country or any other Euro country starts making demands to ours.

I just say this: if your goverments wants to follow the rules like everybody else in EU great, if they don´t, stop playing double games and leave.

One popular myth is that the EU will be just as stable and united as the USA is. This is a severe misjudgement for the immediate future. Give it time though and we'll see.

Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

One popular myth is that the EU will be just as stable and united as the USA is. This is a severe misjudgement for the immediate future. Give it time though and we'll see.

The problem in Europe is that we are trying to unite countries that have been enemies for centuries, that have had many wars betewen them...and this is a dificult thing..

Originally Posted by staurofilakes

The problem in Europe is that we are trying to unite countries that have been enemies for centuries, that have had many wars betewen them...and this is a dificult thing..

It's not just the past wars that are the problem. Britain, Spain, France, Germany, etc are all different culturally.

Austria and Germany share the same culture, but that's as far as it goes. We'll never become the "USE" because we disagree with each other too much.

Originally Posted by Kenty

It's not just the past wars that are the problem. Britain, Spain, France, Germany, etc are all different culturally.

Austria and Germany share the same culture, but that's as far as it goes. We'll never become the "USE" because we disagree with each other too much.

Well, I do not think that we are that much different in the cultural fact. We all have the same roots (Celtic and visigotic origin), we all were dominated by the roman empire,most of us speak languages originated in the latin, we all are Cristians, we all have democracy....and so on.

The biggest problems I think are: loose of soberanity and NACIONALISM.