Topic: (UK)Will police now shoot to kill? 2

Missileer · July 25th, 2005

I have news for you, in the US you can be shot for fleeing police if you were warned to stop.

Rabs · July 26th, 2005

Yes, but rarely. This would be like 3 days after 9/11 someone spriting past the secruity check point in airport, i beleive the shooting tragic but justified.

clownfish · August 5th, 2005

I agree. Sad but justified. The police havent had exposure to this sort of situation before (or for a long while anyway- since the IRA days) and mistakes will be made. In other countries, in similar sitauations, it has taken the security forces years to be able to efficiently (or as best as they can) deal with similar situations.

LeEnfield · August 5th, 2005

The Met Police were always trained to shoot to kill, if some one is threat then they are still a threat when they are wounded, if you kill them then that threat is vastly reduced.

RnderSafe · August 5th, 2005

It wasn't just the Met Police, the new SRR was also involved.

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aye thats exactly why he ran his visa was up. Bloody tony blair hasnt a notion

I'm not sure what Tony Blair has to do with the shooting, as he wasn't there. These lads made a judgement call - and having been in similiar situations, I can't say I wouldn't have done the same in their situation.

Young Winston · August 6th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Shadowalker

God knows why he ran? If i had been in a similar circumstance to the police officer than i think i would of shot the guy to, he ran and leapt over trainthe barriers to the tube station and almost ran onto a tube train

You're joking aren't you?

I hope you don't have aspirations to be a policeman.

Irishone · August 6th, 2005

Oh I completely agree that in the end its not the fault of the poor police man, he has to live with it and feel bad for the guy. He did make the right call at the time, the place was in uproar.
I just think everything could have been handled a lot differently and perhaps better. But this is the Uk's first time experiencing this kind of terrorism first hand, so it is going to a take a while to get up to the standards of other countries who deal with it everyday. So I guess they are doing all they can.
But I personally think its not going to get any better until threats are taken seriously. Which is what they are starting to do now...eventually

03USMC · August 8th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Young Winston

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Originally Posted by Shadowalker

God knows why he ran? If i had been in a similar circumstance to the police officer than i think i would of shot the guy to, he ran and leapt over trainthe barriers to the tube station and almost ran onto a tube train

You're joking aren't you?

I hope you don't have aspirations to be a policeman.

Given the circumstances and the hieghtened security. His running is what got shot, coupled with the failure to stop when commanded to.

In that situation I would have probably engaged.

And I am a Cop.

LeEnfield · August 18th, 2005

Irshone.......Like you chum we had enough years of this sort of thing from the IRA, and even they tried it out on the underground a couple of times. Also we had a number of truck bombs in the City Of London so I would not say that we are new to it all.

Irishone · August 19th, 2005

If thats the case...why was it handled so badly?

July 25th, 2005	Post 11
Missileer Nuclear Duck Hunter Gear	I have news for you, in the US you can be shot for fleeing police if you were warned to stop. __________________ “War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.” —John Stuart Mill

July 26th, 2005	Post 12
Rabs Tribuni Angusticlavii	Yes, but rarely. This would be like 3 days after 9/11 someone spriting past the secruity check point in airport, i beleive the shooting tragic but justified. __________________

August 5th, 2005	Post 14
LeEnfield Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	The Met Police were always trained to shoot to kill, if some one is threat then they are still a threat when they are wounded, if you kill them then that threat is vastly reduced. __________________ LeEnfield Rides again

August 6th, 2005	Post 17
Irishone Centurion Gear	Oh I completely agree that in the end its not the fault of the poor police man, he has to live with it and feel bad for the guy. He did make the right call at the time, the place was in uproar. I just think everything could have been handled a lot differently and perhaps better. But this is the Uk's first time experiencing this kind of terrorism first hand, so it is going to a take a while to get up to the standards of other countries who deal with it everyday. So I guess they are doing all they can. But I personally think its not going to get any better until threats are taken seriously. Which is what they are starting to do now...eventually __________________ Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam.

August 5th, 2005	Post 13
clownfish Immunes	I agree. Sad but justified. The police havent had exposure to this sort of situation before (or for a long while anyway- since the IRA days) and mistakes will be made. In other countries, in similar sitauations, it has taken the security forces years to be able to efficiently (or as best as they can) deal with similar situations.

August 18th, 2005	Post 19
LeEnfield Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	Irshone.......Like you chum we had enough years of this sort of thing from the IRA, and even they tried it out on the underground a couple of times. Also we had a number of truck bombs in the City Of London so I would not say that we are new to it all.

August 19th, 2005	Post 20
Irishone Centurion Gear	If thats the case...why was it handled so badly?