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August 19th, 2005   Post 1
Kina
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Post; U.S. wants Australian to face tribunal


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...ian%20Detainee

what are everyones thoughts on this?
 
August 19th, 2005   Post 2
LeEnfield
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If the charges will stand up in a court of law then why not.
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August 19th, 2005   Post 3
Locke
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whose law?
international law?
or america's law?

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Geneva Conventions on treatment of prisoners of war do not apply to detainees captured in the U.S. war on terror
lets just make the rules to suit what we want, eh?
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August 19th, 2005   Post 4
Kina
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funny how that works eh? changing the laws whenever it suits em.
 
August 19th, 2005   Post 5
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Originally Posted by Kina
funny how that works eh? changing the laws whenever it suits em.
I don't know what "rules" you're talking about being changed. This pretty much sums it up for me:

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David Hicks is accused of having fought alongside the Taliban against U.S. forces in Afghanistan. He is charged with conspiracy, attempted murder and aiding the enemy.
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August 20th, 2005   Post 6
Locke
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that may be so but he is still a human and entitled to certain rights, regardless of what he has done
 
August 20th, 2005   Post 7
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Yeah and he waved those rights when he became a terrorist. They aren't wearing uniforms, they aren't under the command of a national army, and last time I checked, they don't fall under any classifaction of a POW. They aren't soldiers, they're partsian. And because of that, they fall under civilian armed combatives which means they are spies. And under the rules of war. Spies can be killed on the spot. So They are luckly. We treat them better than anyother military power in the world. The Soviet Union would kill them, the People's Republic of China would kill them, and the rest of the middle east, most of Aisa, and all of Africa would kill them too.
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August 21st, 2005   Post 8
Bory
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I am really sick of the idiot Aussie Jorno's trying to make him out to be a victim. "Poor David Hicks, the US are picking on him bla bla bla"

The "man" was caught fighting as an insurgent, against soldiers allied to his homeland, which he is still a citizen of. David Hicks is a Traitor and should be trialed as one.
I reckon bring him to Australia and trial him in front of an Australian Tribunal. SiperMax at Golburn should be good enough for him, he can share it with the other terrorist scum we're putting in there.
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August 21st, 2005   Post 9
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While President Bush was still Governor of Texas, there was a Canadian citizen on death row and Canada was trying to have his punishment commuted to life. When asked by the press what message this would send to the rest of the World, his answer was classic Bush. "I think it will say don't come to Texas and kill people."

Sometimes we sound like hard people to the rest of the US and Countries of the World but justice has always been meted out to suit the crime. It's not a matter of an eye for an eye but more of what is expected of citizens and how they treat others.
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August 21st, 2005   Post 10
Locke
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no, you CANNOT waive your basic human rights, no matter what you do.

amnesty international would have a heart attack if they ever read these forums!