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January 23rd, 2006   Post 1
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Post; U.S. Navy Seizes Pirate Ship Off Somalia


DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - The U.S. Navy boarded an apparent pirate ship in the Indian Ocean and detained 26 men for questioning, the Navy said Sunday.

The 16 Indians and 10 Somali men were aboard a traditional dhow that was chased and seized Saturday by the U.S. guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill, said Lt. Leslie Hull-Ryde of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command in Bahrain.

The dhow stopped fleeing after the Churchill twice fired warning shots during the chase, which ended 54 miles off the coast of Somalia, the Navy said. U.S. sailors boarded the dhow and seized a cache of small arms.
The dhow's crew and passengers were being questioned Sunday aboard the Churchill to determine which were pirates and which were legitimate crew members, Hull-Ryde said.

Sailors aboard the dhow told Navy investigators that pirates hijacked the vessel six days ago near Mogadishu and thereafter used it to stage pirate attacks on merchant ships.

The Churchill is part of a multinational task force patrolling the western Indian Ocean and Horn of Africa region to thwart terrorist activity and other lawlessness during the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

The Navy said it captured the dhow in response to a report from the International Maritime Bureau in Kuala Lumpur on Friday that said pirates had fired on the MV Delta Ranger, a Bahamian-flagged bulk carrier that was passing some 200 miles off the central eastern coast of Somalia.
Hull-Ryde said the Navy was still investigating the incident and would discuss with international authorities what to do with the detained men.
"The disposition of people and vessels involved in acts of piracy on the high seas are based on a variety of factors, including the offense, the flags of the vessels, the nationalities of the crew, and others," Hull-Ryde said in an e-mail.

Piracy is rampant off the coast of Somalia, which is torn by renewed clashes between militias fighting over control of the troubled African country. Many shipping companies resort to paying ransoms, saying they have few alternatives.

Last month, Somali militiamen finally relinquished a merchant ship hijacked in October.

In November, Somali pirates freed a Ukrainian ore carrier and its 22 member crew after holding it for 40 days. It was unclear whether a US$700,000 ransom demanded by the pirates had been paid.

One of the boldest recent attacks was on Nov. 5, when two boats full of pirates approached a cruise ship carrying Western tourists, about 100 miles off Somalia and fired rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles.
The crew used a weapon that directs earsplitting noise at attackers, then sped away.

Somalia has had no effective government since 1991, when warlords ousted a dictatorship and then turned on each other, carving the nation of 8.2 million into a patchwork of fiefdoms.

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January 23rd, 2006   Post 2
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USS Winston S. Churchill? Dang, I was on that ship for my JROTC trip.
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January 23rd, 2006   Post 3
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Man how much would that suck to have an arle burke running you down!
 
January 24th, 2006   Post 4
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Argh!
ha! they tried to run!
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January 24th, 2006   Post 5
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Something I dont get...

Shipping companies say the have no alternative but to pay ranson damands. How about ARMING themselves? Or at least paying somebody to protect your shipping. Sheesh, hasnt anybody read a history book, the way to deal with piracy is to hunt them down, thats what the NAVY is for.
 
January 25th, 2006   Post 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmarsh
Something I dont get...

Shipping companies say the have no alternative but to pay ranson damands. How about ARMING themselves? Or at least paying somebody to protect your shipping. Sheesh, hasnt anybody read a history book, the way to deal with piracy is to hunt them down, thats what the NAVY is for.

The Navy can only interdict when they catch it happening. With radar and such like available it is not hard to avoid naval patrols. The ocean is a huge place.

I am not sure but I believe ships arming themselves is against some international maritime laws. Here is an excerpt from an article I found when I used Google: Arming ships against piracy


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The fact is &endash; most nations including "Her Majesty" have placed an outright ban on arming merchant vessels in order to avoid creating the "Wild Wild West At Sea."
The fear is that use of guns by crew members could easily escalate both the violence of these attacks and the harshness of pirate reprisals. Worse, shooting the "wrong pirate" could cause political, military or legal problems that are simply impossible to solve.
No, guns seem to be out of the question even though they are used to victimize hundreds of innocent merchant crew every year.
This said, an effective brace of merchant weapons are the fire hose, flare gun and ship's horn. Used together, an alert crew can startle, blind and hose a pirate group off the deck before an attack takes hold. The key here is robbing pirates of their chief weapon &endash; the element of surprise.
Source: http://www.cargolaw.com/presentation...s.html#no_guns
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January 25th, 2006   Post 7
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pirates... hope they dont have cannons
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January 29th, 2006   Post 8
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dude lol that's funny... I hope they all get arrested... serves them right they do the pirating, they're going to get the consequences but still like mmarsh said... ships do need to arm themselves to avoid terrorist ceases... infact don't you people remember the cruise ship that almost just got overtaken by pirates..??

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January 29th, 2006   Post 9
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Originally Posted by MoRtArSnCaLiBeRs
infact don't you people remember the cruise ship that almost just got overtaken by pirates..??
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February 1st, 2006   Post 10
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well it just happened a month or two ago... i'll try and find something on it for ya

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