In my opinion ... arm-and-who? should be escorted to ground zero and planted mid site in an unmarked grave. I am NOT tying Iran to 9/11 ... just to the terrorist world (after all, he IS a terrorist and has been one for quite some time), and the only thing we should be giving terrorists, is a one way trip to hell.

For sure, I am willing to help them make the trip as expeditiously as possible.

Originally Posted by Chief Bones

In my opinion ... arm-and-who? should be escorted to ground zero and planted mid site in an unmarked grave. I am NOT tying Iran to 9/11 ... just to the terrorist world (after all, he IS a terrorist and has been one for quite some time), and the only thing we should be giving terrorists, is a one way trip to hell.

For sure, I am willing to help them make the trip as expeditiously as possible.

good to hear that from you

Originally Posted by 03USMC

Your right they were Saudi. I don't make dipolomatic decisions about who we deal with.

As far as Iran who actively supports terrorism in the Mid-East and actively spews venom at the West in General and the US in particular. I feel it would a slap in face to the famlies of the slain to let this Clown visit the site.

yeah but as i said, iran (as well as Iraq) had precisely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks...so how can it be a slap in the face to the victims? i'm sorry, but im just not seeing the link.

im sure they would be more offended by the fact that the US still does business with the saudi's, the taliban still exists and the OBL still remains at large.


and is it really any wonder at all that iran, after being virtually non existant on the world stage for a decade, suddenly jumps to prominence again when the current US administration start making it crystal clear that Iran is next on the list?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4213034a12.html

Vice President Dick Cheney had at one point considered asking Israel to launch limited missile strikes at an Iranian nuclear site to provoke a retaliation, Newsweek magazine reported.

THIS is why you have cross border terrorism in Iraq, this is why they are supplying the insurgents....cause it's always better to fight a war in someone else's backyard. and the only clues they're getting from the west is that war is inevitable.

I think the easiest answer to this is that its their country and their choice as to who sees what in it, they don't need a good reason or even "a" reason to deny the request just as any country can give the one finger salute to requests to visit their country.

I personally don't know why he wants to visit the spot nor do I pretend to understand why he shouldn't see it but in the end its up to the US authorities to make the call.

Originally Posted by MontyB

I personally don't know why he wants to visit the spot

got to admit, neither do i

Originally Posted by phoenix80

Yeah, obviously it's all those "lefty" University students stirring up trouble again.

The Bastards!!

Originally Posted by senojekips

Yeah, obviously it's all those "lefty" University students stirring up trouble again.

The Bastards!!

You know I never noticed the list of sponsors at the bottom right of that picture seems to be a case of one bunch of religious nutjobs protesting another.

Freedoms Watch will run this ad today on NYTimes

Originally Posted by Infern0

the US still deals with saudi arabia, and most of the 9/aa hijackers were saudi.

The other truth is, the lines in the sand mean very little in this war with terrorism. The US deals with Saudi Arabia... the Saudi royal family is usually cooperative (at least on the surface) with the US but of course there are many Saudi citizens who are in fact against the Saudi family and America as well.
Iran is an active sponsor of terrorism and anti-Western activities. Just because they had nothing to do with 9/11 doesn't mean this guy should be allowed to visit the WTC site. Obviously it's something they would have liked to do but Bin Laden did himself.
It would have been very wrong for this terrorist (that's what he is) to be able to visit that site. It doesn't matter that he did it or not. And for those who don't know why he wants to go, come on guys, you're not that stupid. He's going for a photo op. He wants to go visit a "victory monument."
As for him coming to talk at Columbia University... I don't think it's right but whatever. He is a president of a country and I have no idea what he's going to talk about but if he wants to set foot in the country with the most Jews in the world, I guess that's his business.
Also, Iran wouldn't have been in the "to get wacked" list had they not been so active in supporting subvertives in Iraq. I think the logic that they're doing it because they're being targeted is false. No one talked about taking military action against Iran until their activity in Iraq was exposed at the scale it is being announced now. They're taking action because they believe that the US is in no position to launch a realistic and comprehensive military operation against them. They believe that this is the right time to gain control over key groups in the middle east, expand their influence and drive out the US and become the dominant power in the region. Heck, they could be right.
The main problem with the West in the Middle East is that they forget that the lines in the sand mean very little. They are artificial and have little bearing on how things really work over there. You cannot just stare at a map of Iraq. You have to look at the entire Middle East at once.

"The main problem with the West in the Middle East is that they forget that the lines in the sand mean very little. They are artificial and have little bearing on how things really work over there. You cannot just stare at a map of Iraq. You have to look at the entire Middle East at once."

What's worse, is that the lines don't last very long ... the winds constantly blow and the lines disappear as fast as they are drawn.