Topic: Turkey decided on an approval for an offensive against PKK based in northern Iraq 3

bulldogg · November 2nd, 2007

So Gator are you confirming your call for genocide of the Kurds as you wrote in your previous reply?

oRTouCH · November 2nd, 2007

Coalition forces can not fight aganst PKK, because they are still in conflict with militas inside of the Iraq(Baghdad and around). And I don't think that they want to get in danger.
According to the latest news, US sent a U-2 spy to the Northern Iraq border to watch PKK actions, but some of our citizens are foolishy in doubt that US is not watching PKK on the contrary they think US is watchin Turkish forces and that made me laugh

And also according to the some American sources, US may allow Turkey to make an operation in Northern Iraq but not an expanded one. It would be an operation including Air Bombing on some targets and so on, but not a large one.

Gator · November 2nd, 2007

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Originally Posted by oRTouCH

Coalition forces can not fight aganst PKK, because they are still in conflict with militas inside of the Iraq(Baghdad and around). And I don't think that they want to get in danger.
According to the latest news, US sent a U-2 spy to the Northern Iraq border to watch PKK actions, but some of our citizens are foolishy in doubt that US is not watching PKK on the contrary they think US is watchin Turkish forces and that made me laugh

And also according to the some American sources, US may allow Turkey to make an operation in Northern Iraq but not an expanded one. It would be an operation including Air Bombing on some targets and so on, but not a large one.

Again, I say give 'em hell, and good hunting.

oRTouCH · November 2nd, 2007

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Originally Posted by Gator

Again, I say give 'em hell, and good hunting.

I wish that it could be so easy like you say "Give 'em hell." in international politics... We will...

MontyB · November 2nd, 2007

I am not sure what you are worried about in terms of international politics, short of nuking the place or a long term ethnic cleansing program there is nothing the international community will do after all you are combating terrorism.

My opinion is that the only reason the USA is promoting restraint on this issue is that it is not in their best interests for you to do something about it, according to the BBC here is a chronology of the last month or so:

29 Sept: 13 Turkish people killed in ambush on minibus in south-eastern Sirnak province
7 Oct: 13 Turkish soldiers killed by PKK fighters
17 Oct: Turkish parliament approves use of force against PKK in northern Iraq
21 Oct: 12 Turkish soldiers killed by PKK fighters. Eight soldiers captured
24 Oct: Turkish jets bomb PKK positions, according to Turkish news agency

Had the roles been reversed and these people been American citizens would the US administration listening to Turkish concerns?

bulldogg · November 3rd, 2007

Fancy that, MontyB supporting the war against terror. My how the worm has turned.

MontyB · November 3rd, 2007

When a case is justified I will happily support it.

Free · November 7th, 2007

Turkey isn't against Kurds or Iraqis. Turkey is against PKK. Everyone sholuld understand that our Kurd-originated people and Iraqis are our brothers. Yes, they are, but as long as they aren't terrorists and try to seperate Turkey's unity.

November 2nd, 2007	Post 21
bulldogg Milforum's Bouncer Gear	So Gator are you confirming your call for genocide of the Kurds as you wrote in your previous reply? __________________ "The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." - John Steinbeck

November 2nd, 2007	Post 22
oRTouCH Optio Gear	Coalition forces can not fight aganst PKK, because they are still in conflict with militas inside of the Iraq(Baghdad and around). And I don't think that they want to get in danger. According to the latest news, US sent a U-2 spy to the Northern Iraq border to watch PKK actions, but some of our citizens are foolishy in doubt that US is not watching PKK on the contrary they think US is watchin Turkish forces and that made me laugh And also according to the some American sources, US may allow Turkey to make an operation in Northern Iraq but not an expanded one. It would be an operation including Air Bombing on some targets and so on, but not a large one. __________________ The truth might be changed by victory...

November 2nd, 2007	Post 25
MontyB Tribunus Laticlavius	I am not sure what you are worried about in terms of international politics, short of nuking the place or a long term ethnic cleansing program there is nothing the international community will do after all you are combating terrorism. My opinion is that the only reason the USA is promoting restraint on this issue is that it is not in their best interests for you to do something about it, according to the BBC here is a chronology of the last month or so: 29 Sept: 13 Turkish people killed in ambush on minibus in south-eastern Sirnak province 7 Oct: 13 Turkish soldiers killed by PKK fighters 17 Oct: Turkish parliament approves use of force against PKK in northern Iraq 21 Oct: 12 Turkish soldiers killed by PKK fighters. Eight soldiers captured 24 Oct: Turkish jets bomb PKK positions, according to Turkish news agency Had the roles been reversed and these people been American citizens would the US administration listening to Turkish concerns? __________________ To mistrust science and deny the validity of the scientific method is to resign your job as a human. You'd better go look for work as a plant or wild animal. P. J. O'Rourke Last edited by MontyB; November 2nd, 2007 at 21:27.

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November 3rd, 2007	Post 26
bulldogg Milforum's Bouncer Gear	Fancy that, MontyB supporting the war against terror. My how the worm has turned.

November 3rd, 2007	Post 27
MontyB Tribunus Laticlavius	When a case is justified I will happily support it.

November 7th, 2007	Post 28
Free Tirones	Turkey isn't against Kurds or Iraqis. Turkey is against PKK. Everyone sholuld understand that our Kurd-originated people and Iraqis are our brothers. Yes, they are, but as long as they aren't terrorists and try to seperate Turkey's unity.