Transparency? Wikileaks and child pornography

Thanks for the info sweet and fierce Micha.

But like I said, I feel "close" to them. Doesnt mean I'm thinking exactly like them. And you are right, they are called Communists from time to time, and in fact, many communists who gave up on the movement joined them. But they are not really communists.

And you know, when I was a student in highschool, I was told to aim at high scores to get average scores... You try to have an 18 and you end up with a 15.

I know that life isnt perfect... So you aim at an ideal, and you get something close. But we shouldnt ignore the huge potential of the human being... It's part of our "duality". We are extremely weak and extremely powerful at the same time.

A lot of people call themselves realists, and they give up on their ideals... And guess what? things get worse and worse following this school of thought...

And if you speak about ideals with these people, you are labeled as young and stupid, extremist, naive idealist... etc... You better start to live with this tag on your forehead. Like that African king who decided to wear the name of "usurper" as a title (askia I think)...
 
Laws necessary to protect human rights

@ Micha, I totally agree with you.-- I personally believe there is nothing more importnat than to protect the most vulnerable people of humanity - children. The harm child pornography (which often leads to further harm and sexual exploitation of children) causes to the young lives it involves and to society on a whole is well documented in psychology and scientific research--not to even mention what I believe to be spiritual intelligence and empathy. Censor ship and laws that protet human rights and especially children are necessary, including those that involve internet security. Child pornography and all exploitation of children is not "freedom of speech", but a crime ! Of course governments across the world can also use the same "filters and security strategies" for other purposes, including hindering freedom of speech and hindering human rights ! But the goverments who want to do that are doing that already anyway. We, the people need to hold our goverments accountable, get involved for human rights and freedom of speech (excluding hate speech and speech that takes away the freedom and dignity of our fellow human being - regardless of race, gender, religion or age) . That is what democracy is all about. But a culture of lawlessness, greed (including sexual greed) and promoting or even just quietly tolerating abuse (physical, psychological or sexual abuse) is not a means of protection freedom in the long run. If we allow lawlessness and buse to be tolerated on the internet, we are digging our own grave.
 
Regina777, listen carefully.
Protecting children is a very important thing... But I'm against censorship on the internet and this fascist way used by the authorities to control the flow of information on the Internet.

I believe that Internet is a place we have to keep free of control. AT ALL COSTS.

Now everytime you plug your computer, you are on the radar map somewhere... you have an IP to indentify you, and some governments use that to track you and arrest you.

Now, this power can be used to bust criminals... But it's also used to bust honest people who speak for democracy against oppressive regimes...

So I think that these tools, as long as they can harm good honest people, they should be banned...

It's not that I dont care about these molested children... Just that crime will always exist.

The human being can make two choices in life, the choice to do the right thing and the choice to do the wrong thing.

And these two choices will always be available to us somehow...

If someone wants to be a criminal, he will find a way to do it... They dont need Internet to harm children... They will find a way.

It's up to us, the honest people to protect our kids from these bastards... Not the government who have tons of agendas...
 
There are a lot of child pornography sites out there on the ’Net. This is a big problem, it is not just a marginal problem. And even if it were only a few, it is a horrible assault on sometimes very young children.

To call it censorship, to try to close that down, is to misunderstand what censorship is. Censorship is about opinions, freedom of speech. There is no freedom of speech to distribute child pornography. There is no human right to watch it. On the contrary, it’s illegal to have such films and to have such books. They should be shut down, sites like that on the ’Net.
 
Then we should add pornography too...

Many porn actors commit suicide, many porn actresses are slave like girls taken from the streets or worse kidnapped by mafia type organisations...

It's wrong too. But we have more tolerance for common pornography for some reasons...

I say that we should let the police catch these people when they are approaching children...
And we should let the professionals who rent servers and internet services do this clean up themselves...

Think carefully, Internet is the ONLY place where we can be free... If we sacrifice this freedom to "maybe" help in the fight against these kinds of crimes... We will also allow control over the Internet, and this might cost us our freedom.
 
A truly free person is a man who in all situations is free to make his own choices in everything he does.

Do you have it? or is there something or someone who occasionally chooses for you? You are subject to laws and regulations and it is utopian to believe that you can have a completely free internet.
 
It's not the laws and moral values I'm afraid of.

It's the people who are supposed to enforce it.

My vision of the law is simple. We catch you doing something wrong, we beat you up really good and make an example of you until people start shaking at the idea of breaking the law...

But I also believe in the concept of sanctuary. I believe that we are free inside our homes.

I do whatever I want in my home, and I dont have to be transparent and I dont have to allow anybody to control what I'm doing... You can defend yourself. but that's about it.

There is a difference between saying "dont molest my children" and "I will keep an eye on you in case you molest my children."

We are just opening doors to new types of abuse...
 
All forms of Child pornography are also illegal in the US. I strongly doubt that even the ACLU would fight for child pornography as "freedom of speech." A society that cannot or will not protect its children is morally bankrupt and doomed.
 
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