Topic: Top 10 Fighters of the 70s and 80s

shocktroop · February 26th, 2006

Which fighters of the 70s and 80s do you think are the best?

This is my vote:
1. F-15C
2. F-16C
3. F-18C
4. F-14A
5. Mirage 2000
6. Tornado ADV
7. JA37 Viggen
8. Su-27
9. MiG-29
10. MiG-31

Doppleganger · February 26th, 2006

You have to establish what you mean by fighter. Do you mean a dogfighter or an interceptor? The Mig-29 is a dogfighter whilst the Mig-31 is an interceptor.

I think you are unfair on the Russian fighters. I'd have both the Su-27 and Mig-29 far higher, in the top 5 at least. I agree with your 1st 2 choices though.

shocktroop · February 26th, 2006

when I said fighters I ment fighters and interceptors in terms of their air to air capability.
The reason i put the Russian aircraft so low is because they are good in terms of close dogfight, but in terms of BVR combat they are inferior, and modern aircombat starts from BVR range.
Also, for example, the MiG-29 didn't preform very well, it was shot down by F-15s, F-14s and other western aircraft in many wars, and the MiG-29 never shot down an enemy fighter. Iraqi pilots that flew MiG-29s were poorly trained, but the losses are also due to the MiG-29s preformance.

phoenix80 · February 26th, 2006

1: F-14A/D
2: F-15C/D
3: F-4E
4: F/A-18
5: F-16C
6: Tornado
7: MiG-29
8: F-21 Kfir
9: Mirage F-1EQ
10: MiG-25

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MiG-29 is equivalent of F-16 falcon but its main problem is dependency on ground control (like all Russian fighters and bombers) and feul problems which reduces its operational range effectively but over all it is a great airplane and works fine if driven by trained pilot

MiG-31 never entered the service so its evaluation can not be based on its service history though

Rabs · February 27th, 2006

Quote:

1: F-14A/D
2: F-15C/D
3: F-4E
4: F/A-18
5: F-16C
6: Tornado
7: MiG-29
8: F-21 Kfir
9: Mirage F-1EQ
10: MiG-25

1: F-14A/D
2: F-15C/D
3: F-16C
4: F/A-18
5: 6: MiG-29
6: MiG-29
7: Tornado
8: F-21 Kfir
9: Mirage F-1EQ
10: MiG-25

zander_0633 · February 28th, 2006

I would say the F-15C/D goes to first place!

deerslayer · March 1st, 2006

You are aware that the Pentagon did its damndest to kill the F-15 and F-16 projects?

zander_0633 · March 1st, 2006

Well, did they? nOt sure about it! TEll us more!

Bulgar Soldja · March 9th, 2006

Mig 29 4th place

Rabs · March 9th, 2006

Mig 31 was a terrible fighter, it was a bullet with wings. It turned about as well as a bullet to.

February 26th, 2006	Post 1
shocktroop Milites Gregarius	Post; Top 10 Fighters of the 70s and 80s Which fighters of the 70s and 80s do you think are the best? This is my vote: 1. F-15C 2. F-16C 3. F-18C 4. F-14A 5. Mirage 2000 6. Tornado ADV 7. JA37 Viggen 8. Su-27 9. MiG-29 10. MiG-31 Last edited by shocktroop : February 26th, 2006 at 06:57 AM.

February 26th, 2006	Post 2
Doppleganger Tribuni Angusticlavii	You have to establish what you mean by fighter. Do you mean a dogfighter or an interceptor? The Mig-29 is a dogfighter whilst the Mig-31 is an interceptor. I think you are unfair on the Russian fighters. I'd have both the Su-27 and Mig-29 far higher, in the top 5 at least. I agree with your 1st 2 choices though. __________________ "An Emperor is subject to no-one but God and justice." Frederick 1, Barbarossa

February 26th, 2006	Post 4
phoenix80 Banned Gear	1: F-14A/D 2: F-15C/D 3: F-4E 4: F/A-18 5: F-16C 6: Tornado 7: MiG-29 8: F-21 Kfir 9: Mirage F-1EQ 10: MiG-25 -------------- MiG-29 is equivalent of F-16 falcon but its main problem is dependency on ground control (like all Russian fighters and bombers) and feul problems which reduces its operational range effectively but over all it is a great airplane and works fine if driven by trained pilot MiG-31 never entered the service so its evaluation can not be based on its service history though Last edited by phoenix80 : February 26th, 2006 at 02:02 PM.

February 28th, 2006	Post 6
zander_0633 Milforum Gnat Gear	I would say the F-15C/D goes to first place! __________________ - Ready To Strike -

March 1st, 2006	Post 7
deerslayer Milforum Swamp Dweller Gear	You are aware that the Pentagon did its damndest to kill the F-15 and F-16 projects? __________________ Screwing over bureaucratic organizations, one paper tiger at a time. Trespassers will be shot and fed to the dogs.

February 26th, 2006	Post 3
shocktroop Milites Gregarius	when I said fighters I ment fighters and interceptors in terms of their air to air capability. The reason i put the Russian aircraft so low is because they are good in terms of close dogfight, but in terms of BVR combat they are inferior, and modern aircombat starts from BVR range. Also, for example, the MiG-29 didn't preform very well, it was shot down by F-15s, F-14s and other western aircraft in many wars, and the MiG-29 never shot down an enemy fighter. Iraqi pilots that flew MiG-29s were poorly trained, but the losses are also due to the MiG-29s preformance.

March 1st, 2006	Post 8
zander_0633 Milforum Gnat Gear	Well, did they? nOt sure about it! TEll us more!

March 9th, 2006	Post 9
Bulgar Soldja Immunes Gear	Mig 29 4th place Last edited by Bulgar Soldja : March 9th, 2006 at 09:50 PM.

March 9th, 2006	Post 10
Rabs Tribuni Angusticlavii	Mig 31 was a terrible fighter, it was a bullet with wings. It turned about as well as a bullet to.

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