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December 26th, 2005   Post 1
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Post; Tongue in cheek US statement?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4559332.stm


The US says it will not hand over detainees to the Iraqi authorities until they raise levels of care.
After the discovery of hundreds of neglected prisoners held by Iraq's interior ministry, an official said Iraq still had to meet US standards.
"We will not pass on facilities or detainees until they meet the standards we define and that we are using today," Major General John Gardner said.
 
December 26th, 2005   Post 2
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I can see an argument coming....*heads for the bunker*
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December 26th, 2005   Post 3
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If you are only going to post an article without any of your opinions added to start a discussion, it needs to go in one of the news forums.
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December 27th, 2005   Post 4
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Originally Posted by Doody
If you are only going to post an article without any of your opinions added to start a discussion, it needs to go in one of the news forums.
I thought my title said it all? or are you a little oversensitive to the story and decided it would be better to hide it away somewhere?

For you then Doody, I find it ironic and hypocritical for a country to complain about another's handling of prisoners in Iraq. I think that covers it.
 
December 27th, 2005   Post 5
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Originally Posted by Marinerhodes
I can see an argument coming....*heads for the bunker*
I think not Marine, we have been shunted into the side lines.....
 
December 27th, 2005   Post 6
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I personally dislike the direction this post discussion is heading.

I could make a case for either side of this argument but I refuse to get in a flaming session with someone who is NOT completely right or wrong in their reasoning.

Suffice it to say, I am "mostly" glad these suspected terrorist detainees are not free to attack our young troopers in Iraq (nuff said?).
 
December 27th, 2005   Post 7
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Originally Posted by Chief Bones
I personally dislike the direction this post discussion is heading.

I could make a case for either side of this argument but I refuse to get in a flaming session with someone who is NOT completely right or wrong in their reasoning.

Suffice it to say, I am "mostly" glad these suspected terrorist detainees are not free to attack our young troopers in Iraq (nuff said?).
There was no intention to to star a flame war Chief, I was hoping to start a roubust,reasoned and adult discussion on the subject.
 
December 28th, 2005   Post 8
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Originally Posted by Welshwarrior
There was no intention to to star a flame war Chief, I was hoping to start a roubust,reasoned and adult discussion on the subject.
I wasn't hinting you were considering a flame war.

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I could make a case for either side of this argument but I refuse to get in a flaming session with someone who is NOT completely right or wrong in their reasoning.
With the "hot" button on this issue, a flaming match IS a very real possibility and that's something which I personally do not desire.

Last edited by Chief Bones; December 28th, 2005 at 02:58.
 
December 29th, 2005   Post 9
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Compared to other foriegn prisons of that region, even the one the US had in Iraq were those prisoners were abused. Staying at the US prison is like staying at the Walfdorf Astoria compared to other Middle East prisons. I don't see what was so tounge and cheek about the US demading better treatmnet other than to start a flame war.
 
December 29th, 2005   Post 10
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Originally Posted by gladius
Compared to other foriegn prisons of that region, even the one the US had in Iraq were those prisoners were abused. Staying at the US prison is like staying at the Walfdorf Astoria compared to other Middle East prisons. I don't see what was so tounge and cheek about the US demading better treatmnet other than to start a flame war.
Did you actually read what you posted in response? Comparing
Abu Ghraib with the Waldorf Astoria does both establishments an injustice.

I thought that the statement issued by the US authorities about better treatment for Iraqi prisoners was written and delivered with a tongue in the cheek and maybe a wry smile?

If you want to know the truth about the extent of abuse of prisoners in Afghanistan, Cuba and Iraq, then all you have to do is google. BTW the problem is not confined to your forces either.