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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Post; Time for something new --- Lend Lease...How instrumental was the Lend Lease program and aid to Russia to allied victory? Did it make a difference to the final outcome or would the result have been the same regardless?
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | Quite instrumental IMO. I'll reply again with a fuller response in due course.
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | It is my opinion that Lend-lease was vital to the existence of the USSR in WW2. Not from the perspective of AFVs and aircraft - the Soviets provided the vast majority of those items for themselves and in any case, the Soviet built items were generally more effective than the US/UK built ones. The real area where Lend-Lease made all the difference was in logistics. For example, the US supplied 429,612 soft-skinned vehicles to the Red Army. This aid was vital in allowing the Red Army to transport logistical supplies and troops over large distances. It is said that the existence of Lend-Lease allowed the Soviet soldier to have at least one meal a day. Moreover, there is evidence to suggest that Lend-Lease also kept the Soviet railroad system operational. Without this, it would have been very difficult for the Red Army to move large numbers of men and equipment around, thus making it very difficult to organize large-scale operations. For example, Lend-Lease supplied 92.7% of railroad tracks and 81.6% of all locomotives. Without Lend-Lease it is my belief that the Soviet Union would not have the necessary logistical infrastructure in place to repel the Germans. In short, it proved instrumental in their eventual victory. Large scale operations such as the counter-attack at Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk and Operation Bagration to name some would have been impossible to mount otherwise. None other than Gheorgi Zhukov himself is on record stating that Lend-Lease was 'indispensable' to the Soviet war effort. http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/englis...ents/index.htm http://www.o5m6.de/Numbers.html http://orbat.com/site/sturmvogel/SovLendLease.html Last edited by Doppleganger; May 18th, 2008 at 10:50. |
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Could Germany have won the war if: a) the West had been isolated as discussed in another thread. b) If the transport infrastructure inside or leading from the Russian Arctic ports had been destroyed, overun or blockaded. c) If the entire Kriegsmarine, supported by air cover from Norway, had focused on the Arctic rather than the Atlantic If b) perhaps the most sensible policy should have been to concentrate the Blitzkrieg or bombing in the North, not to the oilfields or main cities.
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | I have mixed feelings about all this, I think it was right to send aid to Russia but never once did I ever see any picture or newsreel shot of that equipment on a battlefield. I can't but help but wonder if it was all melted down and used to produce Russian weapons
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Quote:
American lend-lease trucks mounted with Katyusha multiple rocket launchers ![]() | |
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| Centurion | Supply vehicles and bulk materials aren't the most prestigious part of an arsenal, hence few photos, but they are just as important as tanks and aircraft. I don't think the Russians were too pleased with the tanks and aircraft that were sent, these were often not suitable for eastern front conditions. However, they liked the Jeeps and particularly the American tinned meat, they called this the 'second front' |
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Denying either or both ports to the Allies would have had dire consequences for the 2nd World War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Silver_Fox | |
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| Centurion | Actually it seems the main supply route wasn't through the Arctic so perhaps it wasn't that critical after all. Delivery was via the Arctic Convoys, the Persian Corridor, and the Pacific Route. The Pacific Route was used for about half of Lend-Lease aid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend_Lease On the other hand perhaps the latter 2 routes were only opened up late in the war by which time the result was a foregone conclusion Last edited by perseus; May 19th, 2008 at 19:32. |
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