hooray for spamming propoganda! okay, sarcasm aside, i'm with everyone here in the opinion that some of those chinese pictures look as if they could be posed to make the country look better. but if the government is that scared of the people rising up and taking over the country, there is obviously something wrong with the country.

1. please visit the google server in China by www.google.cn. Try it by yourself to see if it is controled like you think.

As a chinese, I can easily access BBC, CNN, Skynews etc. from China. I have been reading all kinds of english sites for many years. the incomprehension and prejudice from you people impress me. Now, Chinese people are widely open their eyes to watch this world. On average,for those normal ordanary people, they know American much more better than American know Chinese. For example, Millions of Chinese people can understand both English and Chinese language, can you? Maybe, American are too pround to know the world outside.

when you critical the chinese people are cheated and duped by the "news control", be careful you are the one you just said. maybe you are cheated in a higher level you can't feel.

we all want to hear what we want, do we?

2. personally, I don't quite agree with the the first part of this thread. I know that those pictures are so selective to foil the topic and I believe it is posted by some nationalism youth. But I still feel happy and pround when I saw it, because when the flood happened in 1999, I was there. I believe if we have the better conditions like American, we will do much better than America.
We all want to believe what we want to, do we?

Not to be rude, but **** Off
What do you know about Australia.... **** All
What do I know about China.... **** All
Thats the way I like it
and by the way, we are not all yanks here.
And keep your b******t off this site!

It's alright guys, our Chinese neighbors are just like that.

I worked for many years with Chinese people, and have lived in Shanghai and and for a short time in Nantong.



The young man in the light blue overalls, had never seen a Westerner before, or been more than a very short distance from his village before my company employed him.

You only need to look at problems like illegal immigration to see that your country is not high on the list of desirable places to live. China has made great advances in recent years, but nearly all of China beyond the cities is still medieval in concept.

No one on this forum denies your right to be a patriotic Chinese citizen, and we will gladly accept this, but spreading false propaganda is not the way to get your message across.

Originally Posted by bxqs

a thread in chinese forum. the pictures of flood in 2005 New Orleans and 1999 China, which is laughing American just hold their gun and stay inside the armed vehicle.

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=310618651

Shall I begin to post up critiques of China from my last six years in your country? You sure you wanna go there son?

Originally Posted by bulldogg

Shall I begin to post up critiques of China from my last six years in your country? You sure you wanna go there son?

Ahhh... nice to have you back in the fight BD. Been kinda hard for me to keep the fight going myself.

As an American I speak two languages. English and Spanish. I spoke Spanish first then learned English. I have traveled far and wide in my short 23 year old life. I have seen the differences in the virtues of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Federalism, etc....

If the USA was not the best nation in the world then we would not have large amounts of migrants trying to gain illegal entry. I'm talking about people fleeing Cuba, Haiti, Mexico, and most of the nations of Central and South America. We have a large number of Europeans and South East Asians coming into the USA.

We have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to keep and bear arms, freedom of choice, freedom of education, and lastly we don't have secret police coming after me at night because I protested the government.

When the people of the United States of America protest against their own government for something as simple how a pigs lives in a farm while it's pregnant. That issue was so high that the Florida State Constitution was amended and changed.

In the People's Republic of China I see people arrested for speaking out against the government, for being a practicing Christian or Falun Gong. I see people have no freedom of speech. I see tanks rolling down streets during a peace march. I see a nation in which it is the government that rules the people. Not the people ruling the government.

Very simple idea to remember in the USA. A Government of the people, by the people, for the people. And guess what.... we don't call ourselves a "People's Republic". Every two bit thug despotic nation that I have ever seen in the history of mankind has called itself something like the following.

The People's Democratic Republic
The People's Socialist Federation
The United Socialists People's Republic
etc....

The more the name sounds like a really great government the more it's not.

Originally Posted by bxqs

1. please visit the google server in China by www.google.cn. Try it by yourself to see if it is controled like you think.

I tried to access the Students for a Democratic Society page and found a Viagra ad instead... uncontrolled my

Yeah.
The guys who are smart enough to know the truth are usually in positions of power and these lies help them stay there so they don't have too many qualms about it. They'd see it as a good thing in fact. Something to keep the people in line and avoid the apparent chaos that leaders and managers in the West have to face.
It's a pretty lethal arrangement.
And as long as their country has a shot at becoming a world superpower the people may not care for the truth either.
Whatever floats their boat. But personally I'm not a big fan of being lied to.

In the end...